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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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has a Phnom Penh applying birth

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- found and is now in the possession of

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the army the game is rigged changed the

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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Church on a game changer Radio Network

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I need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game changing Network

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well well well welcome fade to black

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the spoke radio for Masse's yeah man

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today's Tuesday October 2nd 2018 278

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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planets our meals Jimmy Church what is

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crackin everybody how you doing got a

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great show tonight great week here on

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chants gardener is here that's right

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guys over there for that chance Carter

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short minutes Graham bonnet guitarist

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lines all night long Jon Rappoport of

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Chief of Naval Operations Admiral John

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passengers at over 700 miles per hour

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transportation technologies HTT the

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vessel has been built to scale to

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speeds through magnetic tubes now they

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announced today it will have a Las Vegas

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Hyperloop system would be up in running

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incredible a team of scientists has

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created a device which allows human

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beings to cooperate while playing a game

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using only their thoughts the three way

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the receiver who wears a transcranial

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devices the three participants share

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their thoughts and play Tetris together

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as one we knew it was coming

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that brain interface and it is here

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show cracking happy birthday - today

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sting is 67 comedian one of my favorites

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Brian Regan today is 61 and I'm gonna

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ask her James about this guy slipknot

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guitarist Jim root today is 47 on this

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day in history in 1836 Darwin returns to

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England on the HMS Beagle with an awful

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lot of tortoises that he brought back to

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his friends seriously

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space now this has been vetted now

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listen to me space has a distinct smell

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that smell is a bouquet of diesel fumes

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gunpowder and barbecue the aroma is

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chance gardener is gonna be with us at

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the bottom of the hour to talk about

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magical Egypt this secrets of magical

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Egypt and the online symposium that they

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are doing for the next two weeks and of

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course Graham bonnet guitars Curt James

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new 20 and back insider Jason rice is

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with Jon Rappoport and there's no more

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to welcome to fade to black for the

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Curt James Curt good evening man how are

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you hey Jimmy I'm doing great you know

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I'm talking to you man it doesn't get

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any better than that and you know before

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we before we get off and start talking

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about you know going off and talking

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to have it's hanging out of the wall but

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strats in a second you call yourself now

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I want everybody to know you know Graham

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has been on this show in the past and

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you know he's a great guy and one of the

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great singers out there but you reached

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out to me and you reached out to me and

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it was a great email by the way but you

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are you signed the email Kurt I'm going

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to throw you under the bus right now for

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everybody you signed the email

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paranormal guitar player yeah that's

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right I remember that yeah and now let's

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go right there man

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you you are a fan of the show and coast

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to coast and fade to black and you're

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always listening you were over in

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England you guys are on a European tour

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and you are riding me dude I'm about to

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go check out Rendlesham forest and and

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I'm gonna send you a report by the way

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but you are fully engaged in this

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community aren't you yeah completely and

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father bought the book Chariots of the

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Gods when I first came out I was like

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this little kid and I see this book and

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completely fascinated and then when the

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movie came out I remember he took me to

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see the movie so I've been into it you

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know just childhood I did the same thing

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you know my mom my mom did the same

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thing Chariots of the Gods the book in

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the movie when I was when it came out I

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it I think for a lot of this it Kurt you

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generation I've heard it over and over

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again you know my mom my dad you know

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gave me Chariots of the Gods and and

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daniken about how many lives he changed

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with that book and if he was aware of

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that but absolutely you and I would not

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have connected this that's a strange

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thing you and I were talking the other

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day and you and I have all of the same

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friends right all of the same yeah like

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90% of the people we know are the same

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people right and we have never met well

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we may have but we don't remember it but

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it's it's ufos and erich von daniken

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that brought you on

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fade to black that's pretty yeah it's

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pretty good yeah there was another book

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called UFOs here and now yep that I

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picked up and I would go to the library

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and just anything related to Egyptology

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or UFOs or you know there's a whole

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range of topics that I'm extremely

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interested in like Egyptology and and

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you know astrophysics and yeah you know

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cosmos was big at my house you know that

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have you beyond yeah all of all you know

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and that's that's what I really enjoy

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about this community enduring doing this

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show is that we can talk about all of

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these things whether it's Egypt or the

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pyramids or UFOs or ghosts in the

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paranormal and and in physics and stars

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and space and and Carl Sagan and guitar

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right I can do a whole thing together

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have you have you ever seen anything

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strange in the sky you know I have and

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that was another thing that I wanted to

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elaborate on it and kind of see if other

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people feel the same way it's like when

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you see something you know it's so

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overwhelming that the next day you can

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talk to the person you were with us like

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was that real did I did we really see

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that I know who is that a dream you know

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what I mean right

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well what have you seen well I I swear I

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saw one of those hovering big black

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giant things with lights around the

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perimeter kind of maybe triangular or

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semi rectangular and what where was this

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when was it it must have been about 20

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years ago in Orange County California

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and were you with anybody well that's

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where the memory starts you know playing

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tricks with you because I think

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anything that overwhelming is hard to

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believe and your brain kind of like

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doesn't know how to process that right

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right right right yeah it's like you're

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going man did that really know that no

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no way man I was you know I was just you

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know that was must have been something I

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didn't really see

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okay I'm gonna I'm gonna flip the out

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really quick Neil Turbin Neil Turbin

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right now I've known ok right he was

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your singer for a while Neil who I've

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known for I don't even know how long

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I've known Neil he came on the show and

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and told this amazing story about this

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UFO that followed him up the 405 freeway

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and a you know doug aldrich on this show

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coming back from Vegas right the the

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rock vault he said he said every time he

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drives back from Vegas on the 15 he

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always sees a UFO Graham bonnet on this

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show right these are all friends of ours

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had his famous sighting out off of

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Malibu and and wrote what's what's that

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song that he got yeah yeah yeah yeah you

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know and it's it's just a really strange

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thing when it comes to for me musicians

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and et you know I think it has to do

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with the artistic sensibility the open

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mind the creativeness but I think it

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allows things to happen and I firmly

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believe that well it makes sense to be

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you know the and the other part is when

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I started this show Kurt I thought to

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myself if I just be me and I talk about

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the things that I loved and the things

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that interest me I'm going to attract an

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audience that that is is is right there

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and as soon as I talk about guitars my

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Twitter feed or my email fills up with

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with all of its as guitars or you know

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or or it just doesn't it doesn't matter

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and you know whether I'm talking about

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Dimebag Darrell or or Egypt or the Great

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Pyramid everybody is into the same

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things and that's what I really enjoy so

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let's talk about you for a second today

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you guys are premiering a world premiere

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of your new video Long Island T what is

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it like playing for for Graham bonnet

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who has the the history of only having

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the finest shredders in his band you are

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you're up there in the same class of all

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of those guitar players but does that

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add pressure well that's a great

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question the pressure is there obviously

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I mean that's a given but it's how you

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handle it and how you feel inside you

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know Graham makes it very easy to feel

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comfortable around him you know I've

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worked with a lot of people a lot of

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great singers but Graham has this

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incredible gift of just you know making

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you feel at home making you feel like

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you belong and that makes such a big

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difference you know and and for you did

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do you guys go back and do things like

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you know rainbow tunes and lost in

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Hollywood

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Alcatraz stuff or are you doing only

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grant Bona tunes oh yes we're actually

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have been doing rainbow and MSG and

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Alcatraz and in fact this latest tour is

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the 35 years anniversary of no parole

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from knock and wall so we're doing the

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entire Alcatraz record that featured

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Jimmy Waldo and Yngwie Malmsteen Jan you

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beena Gary Shea and Grandpa it's a great

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record if I recommend it to anybody that

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I mean I'm sure most people have been

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you know heard it but it's a one of the

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best you know guitar records and just

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musical and lyrics you see the thing

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about Graham is he's not just not just a

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good screamer

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he's like the thinking man's lyricist in

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metal music

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amazing he is so melodic I remember

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sitting with him discussing the old days

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oh you know old older stuff and and he's

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like man you know if if really if I had

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my druthers the rock-and-roll stuff is

389
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great man but man I like Detroit you

390
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know I like R&B and yeah that's really

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the truth and he's got that whole

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melodic sensibility behind him so when

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when rainbow came in sand it snatched

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him up I don't even think Richie at that

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time appreciated the melodic because you

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know they got him in because he was just

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you know I had this beautiful

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rock-and-roll voice but he had that

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sensibility of harmony and melody that

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backed him up which made all of those

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songs so so singable right you know what

402
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I mean those courses were huge of course

403
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yeah of course and you know watching him

404
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you know do his thing and working with

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him in the studio it's just amazing

406
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because he's like an orchestra you know

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he when he does when he sings not only

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is he thinking about you know the lead

409
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vocal but he's got all this really

410
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incredible harmony you know that he

411
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loves to work with you know so that's

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something if you really pay attention to

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his music you know it's there

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now how about usually always it and and

415
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how about you are you able to be the

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curt Ames that you want to be in the

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Graham bonnet band you know you know

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this goes way back you know I was in

419
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Steeler you know right after Yngwie

420
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Malmsteen and then when I met a vein you

421
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know with him you know really good

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friends right away and when he left

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Alcatraz I go ma'am you know now that's

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where I want to be but due to

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circumstances beyond my control I never

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really got introduced properly to the

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organization and 35 you 35 years later

428
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Here I am happier than a pig and you

429
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know

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I mean this is just perfect for me you

431
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guys are in the middle of a tour right

432
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now and where are you playing like

433
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tomorrow night worried off - we're going

434
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up to Seattle it's a place called El

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Corazon it's it's right in the heart of

436
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Seattle and it's a great place to play

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from what I hear I've never been there

438
00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:26,410
before but looking forward to it that

439
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would be tomorrow night yeah and so

440
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you're coming through California you've

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got a bunch of dates here you just

442
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played the Viper Room which I missed but

443
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you're coming back to California you

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just got back from Europe it's pretty

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much back-to-back dates with Graham yeah

446
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actually we're stopping in Las Vegas are

447
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you playing vamped that's right you're

448
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playing the counts place that's right so

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we're gonna hit that and then we're

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playing this really quaint amazing

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little place up in the upper desert mean

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apple top yeah yeah Apple Valley hilltop

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and in tavern and they have

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accommodations there for anybody that

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you know gets too happy to drive back

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home and then then that would be after

457
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that is San Diego yeah brick by brick is

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a famous place in San Diego yeah that's

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an amazing I'm gonna just let the

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audience know I'm gonna try to talk Reid

461
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into a road trip and head up that Apple

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Valley next Friday night to come and see

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you guys play I can't believe I missed

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the Viper Room but what what do you just

465
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want to do a quick gear rundown before

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we run out of time this is for me yeah I

467
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know that you're a Strad guy what's your

468
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main strat well right now the one that

469
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seems to work the best is actually one

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that I've had for over 20 years maybe 25

471
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years and it's a a 77 neck maple neck on

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a 75 ash body it's very heavy and it was

473
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these were just parts that were you know

474
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back in the day you know oh you look in

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the recycler and there'd be a neck for

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70 bucks or a body for 50 whatever

477
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and this was just stuff that I just

478
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threw together on a lark and when I

479
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played it at rehearsal it was just like

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oh my god and this thing stays in tune

481
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sounds huge it's like the one so that's

482
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what I mean one it's that it's the

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yellow kind of like a creamy yellow

484
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scalloped neck maple neck strat that's

485
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amazing how you scalloped your necks

486
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okay yeah I don't always play scalloped

487
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next I believe that the wood sounds

488
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:49,750
better than air if you do the if you do

489
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the math there you know there so if you

490
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:55,570
take away too much wood you're losing

491
00:25:59,880 --> 00:25:58,090
some of the tone you know so if it ain't

492
00:26:02,060 --> 00:25:59,890
broke don't fix it I mean if I can play

493
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it and it's not scalloped and it works

494
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then I leave it alone but if it certain

495
00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:07,900
guitars just the frets are too small or

496
00:26:14,130 --> 00:26:10,150
whatever you got a skeleton and what's

497
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:14,140
your what what amps are using ah well

498
00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:17,560
there I've been a big fan of a Marshall

499
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,920
amplification and and you know I grew up

500
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in actually I graduated from South

501
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:25,750
Pasadena High School so when I was

502
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:27,850
growing up you know Eddie Van Halen was

503
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the guy in town and they shut you know

504
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flyers and our lockers and you know we'd

505
00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:35,470
go up and see him at parties and at the

506
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:38,500
Pasadena Civic anyway you know so the

507
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plexi super lead Plex sees from like 67

508
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:46,420
869 they're like the holy grail for us

509
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:48,010
you know Pasadena Boys

510
00:26:53,130 --> 00:26:50,170
that's right so I'm using yeah I'm using

511
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a 69 plexi if it just sounds amazing and

512
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I love it

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00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:56,380
I thought you were gonna tell me it has

514
00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:00,370
a hose a mod as well actually you know

515
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:04,270
Jose maintained his ass but he never had

516
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,830
an extra preamp gain or any of that

517
00:27:09,330 --> 00:27:07,600
stuff you know it was just a good

518
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:09,340
setting yeah that's right that's right

519
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:11,610
and what are you use them for pedals

520
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:15,730
well actually right now I've customized

521
00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:18,880
a couple of my own pedals that one's

522
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:24,220
called a phase 91 right okay yeah right

523
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:27,280
you know and then the other is off the

524
00:27:32,370 --> 00:27:30,130
gray do be over 250

525
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,380
but it's just a little bit more clear

526
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sounding so it sounds a little more

527
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:37,180
natural but I do have all the original

528
00:27:43,050 --> 00:27:40,150
phase nineties and Grady IPs all that

529
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,060
stuff so you're using a single channel

530
00:27:47,130 --> 00:27:45,520
Marshall and a couple of petals and a

531
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,140
strat and you're good to go

532
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:50,320
that's that's it man that's it yeah it's

533
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:53,050
yeah other than that it's home actually

534
00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:54,910
the more crap you put in front of the

535
00:27:59,610 --> 00:27:56,980
half the the worse it sounds yeah that's

536
00:28:03,210 --> 00:27:59,620
right that's right yeah I'm a you know

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for me straight unless you've got a

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crybaby down there or phase 90 right my

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other net straight hard line to the

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ant-man with a little verb and you're

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good to go and that's it's always the

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best tone the louder the better but

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that's me Kurt

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I can't wait to see you guys next Friday

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here in Southern California and Apple

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Valley but all my best to everybody in

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the band the video was great the new

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album is great the tour's been going

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great

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and I just wish you guys are the best

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safe travels out there and then we'll

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talk some UFOs next Friday night

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you got it thanks Jimmy Thank You Kurt

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Kurt James yeah thank you so much hurt

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everybody can go to the Graham bonnet

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ban calm and it's right there full tour

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schedule is up the new video was just

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released it's a great website everything

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is there and you can also follow the

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Graham bonnet on Twitter and I just

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found out right before the show I didn't

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even know this but Kurt is not on

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Twitter but you can definitely follow

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everything right there at the Graham

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bonnet on Twitter I'm gonna take a quick

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break Thank You Kurt you guys have safe

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travels we'll see you next Friday right

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here in Southern California I'll be

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right back with our guests chance

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Gardiner Kurt James shredder I'll be

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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here with Jimmy Church what a great week

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on fade to black

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unbelievable and tonight chance Gardner

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is here tomorrow night Jason rice the

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new twenty back insider is gonna join us

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Thursday night's another Fator night

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open lines with Jon Rappoport and is no

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more fake newsroom live tonight though

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it's chance and we're gonna talk about

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the magical Egypt online symposium that

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is going on right now October 1st

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through October 11th almost two straight

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weeks of the best guests including Laird

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Scranton last night they had a Rick

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Strassman on Chris Dunn Edie the Edie

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Nightingale so many more we're gonna

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talk about all of that and of course

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chance is a multi award-winning graphic

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designer 3d animator cinematographer

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editor 20-year career promoting motion

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producing motion graphics and on-air

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promo for major TV networks including

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20th Century Fox Paramount Studios NBC

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Universal and he retired from television

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in 2001 to make documentaries and that

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includes of course magical Egypt one and

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two with John Anthony West and let's

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let's just get straight to a chance

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welcome back to the show how are you

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Jimmy I am fantastic and I'm super

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excited to be here because people keep

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telling me I have a face for radio

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yeah a face like that you should do

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radio you know III got to see you on

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video about a half hour ago and I'm

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gonna I'm gonna concur my friend I'm

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gonna go to concur what let's get let's

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get straight to it there lots to talk

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about tonight one of the things that I

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want to just right off the bat one of

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the important guests that you forgot to

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mention is the iconic Jimmy Church is

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joining me tomorrow night

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they know Jimmy from such shows as fade

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to black the iconic art Bell art bells

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grandfather of all cool radio the

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coast-to-coast show Jimmy and I are

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gonna there's gonna be a big kind of a

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kickoff we're doing a three-hour

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extravaganza tomorrow night and the

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symposium lies before us I'm so excited

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to because we have such a collection of

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just the pinnacle of thinkers and

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researchers and blowing open this this

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subject of ancient Egypt and what it

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means to us yes and the idea behind this

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that is a lot of work to do a two-week

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conference I mean that's that's insane

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and you've put together yeah you know

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what actually let's take the time let's

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go down this list I mean you know Laird

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Scranton Rick Strassman

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to kick things off right of course you

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and I but incredible so let's talk about

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why I mean Laird is obvious but Rick

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what what a what a great idea Rick

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Strassman was in the original magical

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Egypt and not only is he just a

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fascinating person in his own right and

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he was friends with Terence Mckenna who

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I just just absolutely love but Rick

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Strassman is one of those examples of

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what magical Egypt is about where this

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one branch of the humanities has been

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dictating what we believe about ancient

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Egypt for you know most of modern

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civilization and their story now is the

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same as it was back in the 50s whereas a

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lot of it well as the rest of the world

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keeps moving on science keeps perfecting

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itself and because of magical Egypt

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because of your show and because of

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things are pointing to the mystery of

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Egypt more and more scientists are

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coming online mathematicians and

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engineers and chemists psychologists

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astronomers every single branch of

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science as time goes by science is

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getting to the place where they're

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starting to recognize things from

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ancient Egypt and the collective voice

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of Magical Egypt and really the

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collective voice that Egypt expresses

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itself in it's starting to turn and it's

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starting to become a

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and that what we've thought of as the

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message of ancient Egypt that was kind

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of a proto religious superstitious thing

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about gods and whatnot is really more

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correctly thought of as a misunderstood

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science and because you know in the

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1900s in the 1800s when we were trying

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to understand Egypt you know science was

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in a certain place and there was some

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things we could recognize it's so much

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of it we absolutely couldn't recognize

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but as science progresses and things

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like string theory and subatomic physics

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become more understood people like Laird

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can point back at the Dogon and the

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ancient Egyptians who have this iconic

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message that perfectly described what we

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know now is subatomic physics where Rick

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Strassman comes in really is so relevant

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to this is most of Egyptology has this

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idea that the Egyptians didn't know what

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the brain was for and we all know from

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you know if you've ever seen Hindu or

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Tibetan or Buddhist art those beautiful

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Buddhist temples the beautiful statues

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and a Mayan South American Aztec art

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there's this huge prominence a prominent

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pointing to the third eye this place

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that the Hindus call the bindi you know

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and I think we all at this point know

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what the third eye is Rick Strassman is

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not only a psychologist but he is a

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psychiatrist sorry and fantastic dr. RIT

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was one of the breakthrough people that

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helped us understand the little bit that

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we do understand about the pineal gland

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which is the pineal gland pituitary and

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thalamus all taken together are this

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seed of consciousness known as the third

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eye or just known as the mind's eye in

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the West Rick was the last person that

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was given official permission to test

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DMT this incredibly strong psychedelic

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on human subjects and this almost never

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happens because the government you know

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as soon as LSD came out and as soon as

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entheogens became widely recognized the

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government just absolutely clamped down

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not only can people not do these things

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recreationally but science wasn't even

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allowed to explore the effects of DMT on

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the pineal gland and so I brought Rick

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into the show to demonstrate another

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example of how

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and science points to this thing that

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the ancients used to make a really big

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deal about but the modern world didn't

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understand so the pineal gland is the

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seat of consciousness and more

809
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,310
particularly what your brain does when

810
00:41:11,830 --> 00:41:10,160
you're on DMT or hallucinogens it tells

811
00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:11,840
us something really important about

812
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,660
consciousness as you know modern science

813
00:41:17,830 --> 00:41:16,160
really is one of the few things we don't

814
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:17,840
understand in the modern world is what

815
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,220
the hell is that what is consciousness

816
00:41:23,710 --> 00:41:21,200
and you know we still don't really even

817
00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:23,720
know what the pineal gland does except

818
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:25,600
produce this naturally-occurring

819
00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:28,880
incredibly powerful psychedelic and

820
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:31,700
people on this psychedelic frequently

821
00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:33,650
report or in fact a common experience in

822
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:35,750
DMT is that people who do this DMT trip

823
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:37,310
suddenly are not in your body anymore

824
00:41:41,230 --> 00:41:39,140
your consciousness is disconnected from

825
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,240
your body and you go to these places

826
00:41:46,990 --> 00:41:44,240
that seem to be actually real objective

827
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:47,000
places that exist somewhere you know not

828
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,400
in our regular space but everyone who's

829
00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:51,200
done DMT and you know the whole 60s

830
00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:53,900
culture it's a fairly common idea that

831
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:56,300
these infusions disconnect your

832
00:42:00,070 --> 00:41:57,890
consciousness from your body and allow

833
00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:00,080
you to Conte to interact with

834
00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:02,150
intelligences and just these weird

835
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:06,440
things that genuinely seem to be outside

836
00:42:12,070 --> 00:42:09,470
of us another dimension a parallel world

837
00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:12,080
yeah or a different frequency like on

838
00:42:15,310 --> 00:42:13,640
your television you know your television

839
00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:15,320
doesn't ever change the space it's in

840
00:42:19,690 --> 00:42:16,820
but it changes the frequency that it

841
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:19,700
tunes into and so what some people think

842
00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:23,210
is that this actually changes the

843
00:42:26,770 --> 00:42:24,950
frequency that your brain Tunes into

844
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:26,780
which is you know it's a very exciting

845
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:30,110
thing and the tendency of modern science

846
00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:32,330
is to be very reductionist and material

847
00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:34,460
and they say that consciousness is sort

848
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:36,200
of just this byproduct of how complex

849
00:42:41,050 --> 00:42:38,600
your brain is whereas the ancient model

850
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:41,060
and in ancient Egypt they had literally

851
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:42,830
the inverse that consciousness is the

852
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:44,990
only thing that there is and that

853
00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:47,810
consciousness and light slowed down and

854
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:49,550
consolidated form the basis of

855
00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:52,490
everything and it's a huge contention

856
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:54,980
and it really has much wider it has

857
00:42:59,590 --> 00:42:56,690
theological ramifications it has

858
00:43:03,010 --> 00:42:59,600
psychological ramifications but the

859
00:43:04,690 --> 00:43:03,020
Egyptians in so many ways seem to be way

860
00:43:06,370 --> 00:43:04,700
way ahead of us and only just now a

861
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,380
science is starting to understand the

862
00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:08,000
role of the pineal gland and

863
00:43:11,950 --> 00:43:09,260
what happens in the hallucinogenic

864
00:43:16,570 --> 00:43:11,960
process we are starting to understand

865
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:16,580
now why Egypt had such a fanaticism for

866
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:19,370
the third eye area and for this idea of

867
00:43:24,430 --> 00:43:21,890
talking to gods and having spiritual

868
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:24,440
things and consulting with intelligences

869
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,180
that are much smarter than you and in

870
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:27,680
some cases intelligences that seem to be

871
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:33,050
outside of the flow of regular time I'm

872
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:36,170
gonna jump in real quick the the

873
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:38,210
presentation that you did on the pineal

874
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:43,490
gland and magical Egypt - now it's your

875
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:46,730
fault I can help but see the pineal

876
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:49,130
gland every time I see the eye of Rob

877
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:51,110
which I have all over the studio I'm

878
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:53,170
holding them up to the cameras right now

879
00:43:57,580 --> 00:43:55,370
some of the stuff that I have around

880
00:43:59,170 --> 00:43:57,590
here and yeah it's the eye of Rob right

881
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,180
but not to me anymore

882
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,760
it's the pineal gland yeah and that's it

883
00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:03,920
and and you're responsible for that it's

884
00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:06,200
an incredible presentation that you that

885
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:09,350
you do want it you really you present a

886
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:11,650
really good case an argument for this

887
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:15,530
there's so much science in Egypt and

888
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:17,330
I've always thought it was an extremely

889
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:19,310
strange thing that something so

890
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:21,410
important to all of us is so so

891
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:23,330
important to humanity and such a big

892
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:24,770
part of our identity as ancient Egypt

893
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:27,320
that the only people who are allowed to

894
00:44:31,660 --> 00:44:28,930
make pronouncements about it are

895
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:31,670
Orthodox Egyptologists and historians

896
00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:34,250
when in fact it's sort of like finding a

897
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:35,720
car and they're taking a car to a

898
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:37,310
veterinarian and asking them what they

899
00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:40,760
think that in a huge way you don't need

900
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:42,830
each ecologist you need mathematicians

901
00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:44,630
you need engineers you need stone

902
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:47,840
workers psychologists music acoustic

903
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:51,110
experts but what I found was I had a

904
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:53,660
certain core expertise and a certain

905
00:44:57,250 --> 00:44:55,310
amount of you know credibility in my

906
00:45:01,420 --> 00:44:57,260
field I'm coming up on 30 years of doing

907
00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:01,430
what I do and artists it turns out when

908
00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:03,470
artists look at Egypt when scientists

909
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:05,030
and artists look at Egypt and most

910
00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:06,650
importantly when artists and scientists

911
00:45:12,370 --> 00:45:09,260
team together to look at Egypt the

912
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,380
picture that you see is almost an

913
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:14,000
entirely different picture than the

914
00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:15,650
picture of Egypt that we learned about

915
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:17,630
in school it's a much more sophisticated

916
00:45:22,819 --> 00:45:21,150
place and most important of all is

917
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:22,829
most of what you hear about ancient

918
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:25,049
Egypt doesn't pass the silhouette test

919
00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:26,460
that what's in it for me why would I

920
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:28,680
care about this that most Orthodox

921
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:30,660
Egyptology has to do with these really

922
00:45:34,789 --> 00:45:32,490
abstract things that have nothing to do

923
00:45:36,349 --> 00:45:34,799
with us when you actually understand the

924
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:36,359
messages that the temples in the

925
00:45:39,769 --> 00:45:38,430
statuary and the papyri and all the

926
00:45:41,569 --> 00:45:39,779
funerary texts when you actually

927
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:41,579
understand the message of ancient Egypt

928
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:44,010
it's not religious it's a scientific

929
00:45:47,539 --> 00:45:45,900
message but it happens to be a

930
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:47,549
scientific message that focuses

931
00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:49,410
specifically on an area of science that

932
00:45:54,859 --> 00:45:51,750
pisses off modern scientists it's a

933
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:54,869
science of consciousness mattel you the

934
00:46:01,579 --> 00:45:59,460
other great part about it is Egyptian

935
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:01,589
ancient Egyptian art whether its

936
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:05,130
sarcophagus or wall or sculpt it doesn't

937
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:08,910
matter it's easy to look at right and so

938
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:11,099
when you go back to like the roaring 20s

939
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:13,619
right where Egypt was everywhere in the

940
00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:15,569
United States in the clothes and the

941
00:46:22,569 --> 00:46:19,470
furniture and and whatever it was it was

942
00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:22,579
there because it looked cool right and

943
00:46:28,339 --> 00:46:26,760
so that accessibility to every was

944
00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:28,349
pleasing to look at you didn't have to

945
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:29,819
convince somebody that it was cool

946
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:32,190
artwork have you been on one of the most

947
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,750
important parts of it and then you got

948
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:38,880
into the science of it and then you got

949
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:41,460
into the history and and so forth but

950
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:44,430
you were drawn to it naturally and

951
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:47,369
didn't know why as a five-year-old I was

952
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:48,240
drawn to it

953
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,510
there are aesthetics we use the word

954
00:46:56,059 --> 00:46:53,760
aesthetics aesthetics is the science of

955
00:46:58,849 --> 00:46:56,069
studying the artistic expressions of

956
00:47:01,940 --> 00:46:58,859
previous cultures and so my entry to

957
00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:01,950
magic to Egypt was as an artist I saw

958
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,200
this art and it is beautiful and I would

959
00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:06,000
make the case that there's never been a

960
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,180
civilization before or since

961
00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:10,380
possibly Salvador Dali but very few

962
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:12,900
others who really ever came close to the

963
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:15,569
intensity of the beauty and because it

964
00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:17,880
was my job for so long I worked at a

965
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:19,470
network I won't say which one it's not

966
00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:22,319
one of the noble ones um I work there

967
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:24,660
are no noble networks but I work at this

968
00:47:31,339 --> 00:47:29,099
network and I push the limits of art to

969
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:31,349
the point where if you understand hard

970
00:47:34,609 --> 00:47:33,119
enough and you understand psychology and

971
00:47:36,940 --> 00:47:34,619
physiology there's

972
00:47:39,049 --> 00:47:36,950
colors that produce actual physiological

973
00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:39,059
responses in us and what's even stranger

974
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:41,190
well the thing that most people can

975
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:44,339
identify with is if I go to a piano and

976
00:47:49,630 --> 00:47:46,440
I play a third and a fifth and a seventh

977
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:49,640
the proportion between those notes is

978
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:53,249
pleasant to us if I play a fourth and a

979
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,650
sixth and at something it's awful and it

980
00:47:58,910 --> 00:47:57,119
makes you cringe and it makes you want

981
00:48:01,039 --> 00:47:58,920
to leave the room so that's a really

982
00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:01,049
quick example that everyone can relate

983
00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:04,349
to about how relationships proportional

984
00:48:09,230 --> 00:48:06,150
relationships between things are

985
00:48:10,789 --> 00:48:09,240
pleasant or unpleasant so a lot of

986
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:10,799
people know about the Fibonacci series

987
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,529
and this organic geometry graphic

988
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:14,819
designers will know about Fibonacci

989
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:16,740
series and the golden section because

990
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,329
there seems to be these certain

991
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:21,440
divisions of space and proportions that

992
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:24,119
affect our nervous system and we have

993
00:48:27,769 --> 00:48:25,650
this it's almost like we fall in love

994
00:48:28,999 --> 00:48:27,779
with it um yeah an example I use a lot

995
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:29,009
is you know when you see a baby I mean

996
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:30,480
if you don't like kids if you see a baby

997
00:48:34,759 --> 00:48:32,819
or if you see a little baby shirt or

998
00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:34,769
little baby shoes they're just like

999
00:48:38,029 --> 00:48:36,420
whoever you are they're just adorable

1000
00:48:39,859 --> 00:48:38,039
you have to stop for a minute ago my god

1001
00:48:42,140 --> 00:48:39,869
how adorable is that right and there's

1002
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:42,150
something we're hardwired to that the

1003
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:43,890
proportion of the eyes and the size of

1004
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:46,440
the head to the body which is part of

1005
00:48:50,269 --> 00:48:48,329
the reason why that whole gray aliens

1006
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:50,279
thing is so sticky in our psyche because

1007
00:48:53,779 --> 00:48:51,720
they have that proportion that babies

1008
00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:53,789
have bigger head and littler body and

1009
00:48:59,749 --> 00:48:57,420
we're literally wired to respond to that

1010
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,759
with emotion like falling in love love

1011
00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:01,440
at first sight is a huge example of this

1012
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:04,200
that nobody can explain why we respond

1013
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:07,079
the way we do as the magical Egypt

1014
00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:08,970
project continued and as we started

1015
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:12,150
understanding the real role of art in

1016
00:49:18,589 --> 00:49:16,859
the past it was used to transmit this

1017
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:18,599
information but the information was

1018
00:49:23,499 --> 00:49:21,420
couched in beauty and it's like putting

1019
00:49:26,089 --> 00:49:23,509
a spoonful of sugar and aspirin or

1020
00:49:30,109 --> 00:49:26,099
mixing vodka with grape juice or

1021
00:49:32,989 --> 00:49:30,119
something it's this intensely dense

1022
00:49:35,539 --> 00:49:32,999
technical information but it's relayed

1023
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:35,549
through this medium that is pure beauty

1024
00:49:40,849 --> 00:49:38,700
and not only is it just pleasant to look

1025
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,859
at but the way our brain is structured

1026
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:42,720
and the way we store information and the

1027
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:45,480
way we process information

1028
00:49:51,330 --> 00:49:49,690
Egypt was perfectly it was one of those

1029
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,340
examples of technology that's gotten so

1030
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:52,960
far that it doesn't seem like technology

1031
00:49:58,110 --> 00:49:54,940
it seems like magic that they understood

1032
00:49:59,970 --> 00:49:58,120
art and the psyche so well that the

1033
00:50:02,040 --> 00:49:59,980
language they used was a visual language

1034
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:02,050
of hieroglyphs but also part of their

1035
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,880
language was symbolism which is a very

1036
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:05,680
right brain thing it's all about

1037
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:07,570
analogies and connection and if I show

1038
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:09,700
you a bird it means flight and it means

1039
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:12,880
the volatile and so because of our right

1040
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:15,130
brain and this dense web of associations

1041
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:17,890
and meanings we have Egypt can transmit

1042
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:20,260
this science through the medium of art

1043
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:23,290
and as I said this is the most important

1044
00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:25,260
branch of science and it's the most

1045
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:27,700
underdeveloped in the modern world this

1046
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:31,030
science that explains why we think of

1047
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,770
ourselves as individuals why am I only

1048
00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:34,960
seeing out of my eyes why do I only hear

1049
00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:37,000
my own thoughts is their consciousness

1050
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:38,950
outside of us that we can tap into which

1051
00:50:44,070 --> 00:50:40,710
is what the whole psychedelic

1052
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:44,080
conversation raises and so as we've

1053
00:50:49,170 --> 00:50:46,180
uncovered more and more of Egypt what

1054
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:49,180
we'd realized is that this isn't proto

1055
00:50:53,970 --> 00:50:51,430
religion this is like a magic mirror

1056
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:53,980
that holds itself up to you and shows

1057
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:55,960
you the parts of yourself that are the

1058
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:57,970
most important first of all and things

1059
00:51:02,040 --> 00:50:59,920
you can't see what's the structure of

1060
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:02,050
your psyche structure of the psyche

1061
00:51:05,550 --> 00:51:03,280
seems are very much parallel the

1062
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:05,560
physical structure of the brain so when

1063
00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:08,050
you see things like the temple pylon

1064
00:51:12,810 --> 00:51:11,080
that shows you where the the Egyptian

1065
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:12,820
pylon acts like a template where if you

1066
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:14,590
hold that in your mind hold the picture

1067
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:15,910
of the temple or if you can do it on

1068
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:17,260
computer you take an outline of the

1069
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:19,420
pylon put it directly over the human

1070
00:51:23,130 --> 00:51:21,070
brain and you'll find that all the

1071
00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:23,140
articulations of the architecture show

1072
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:24,940
you exactly where the important parts of

1073
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,640
the brain are and that most iconic thing

1074
00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:29,440
in Egyptian architecture that beautiful

1075
00:51:34,890 --> 00:51:32,620
door the big door with the fluted top

1076
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:34,900
and the winged disc the winged disk

1077
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,690
lands exactly at the place of the third

1078
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:39,520
eye the pineal pituitary and thalamus

1079
00:51:44,250 --> 00:51:42,010
and the wing of disk itself is this kind

1080
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:44,260
of instruction about unify you know the

1081
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:45,910
two wings represent the two hemispheres

1082
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:48,130
of the brain in this case and then the

1083
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:49,750
center Suns symbol you know what I'm

1084
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:52,290
talking about the wing it yes absolutely

1085
00:51:57,710 --> 00:51:55,050
that is itself not only a symbol but a

1086
00:52:00,380 --> 00:51:57,720
schematic and instruction about how to

1087
00:52:02,030 --> 00:52:00,390
achieve this state of consciousness that

1088
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:02,040
is expressed everywhere in Egypt you

1089
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:03,330
know how often people when they see

1090
00:52:07,310 --> 00:52:05,670
Egypt when John West was on Joe Rogan

1091
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:07,320
the first question Joe Rogan asked John

1092
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:09,210
was how are they so smart why were they

1093
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:11,550
so smart and it turns out they left a

1094
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:14,610
road map in the art telling us how to

1095
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:16,770
achieve this state of consciousness and

1096
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:18,450
because it's been so misunderstood and

1097
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:20,130
misrepresented and you know there's a

1098
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:26,280
lot of money and so we never did get the

1099
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:28,050
truth about that and it's it's operative

1100
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:29,520
it's something we can use it's not just

1101
00:52:33,740 --> 00:52:31,890
a theoretical idea sorry what no that's

1102
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:33,750
okay because when we talk about the

1103
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:35,610
science of it and some of the

1104
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:37,710
revelations coming out of Giza right now

1105
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:40,440
you've got Chris Dunn on Thursday and

1106
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:43,980
and Chris's approach to the Great

1107
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:48,450
Pyramid seemed revolutionary and almost

1108
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:51,030
too far outside of the box now science

1109
00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:53,640
is coming right behind Chris and papi

1110
00:52:59,570 --> 00:52:56,220
propping him up and he's got him on

1111
00:53:01,760 --> 00:52:59,580
Thursday chris is amazing I just locked

1112
00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:01,770
in with him this week figuring out what

1113
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:04,380
to talk about and so first of all is it

1114
00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:07,410
said Christopher Dunn is most widely

1115
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:10,320
known for his idea that the pyramid is

1116
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:12,330
actually a massive electrical power

1117
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:15,090
plant there are a number of Engineers

1118
00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:17,550
and just you know weird brainiacs that I

1119
00:53:20,570 --> 00:53:19,140
know here that are fascinated with him

1120
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:20,580
because it actually works this thing

1121
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,720
that he proposed the pyramid because of

1122
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:26,640
its location over the aquifers and the

1123
00:53:32,690 --> 00:53:28,920
tides create this ambient electricity

1124
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:32,700
and literally very similar to the power

1125
00:53:36,050 --> 00:53:34,530
plant that Nikola Tesla tried to build

1126
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:36,060
or he was in the process of building I

1127
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:38,700
think when he died also over the top of

1128
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:40,290
a coastline where water would come in

1129
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:41,790
and go and take advantage of that

1130
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,970
natural electricity but Christopher

1131
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,520
Dunne I really hit it off with him first

1132
00:53:51,590 --> 00:53:49,440
of all because he and I have so many

1133
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:51,600
similarities he's a machinist and an

1134
00:53:56,060 --> 00:53:53,490
engineer and so he works through the

1135
00:53:57,140 --> 00:53:56,070
computer in an interface it's very much

1136
00:53:59,630 --> 00:53:57,150
like mine with you're a computer

1137
00:54:00,820 --> 00:53:59,640
animator you work with top view side

1138
00:54:03,590 --> 00:54:00,830
view

1139
00:54:04,930 --> 00:54:03,600
weld two accesses x-axis y-axis and

1140
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:04,940
z-axis

1141
00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:07,520
Kristopher in addition to this great

1142
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:09,230
pyramid theory which was his first

1143
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:11,270
offering I found the stuff he's done

1144
00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:13,490
later as is every bit as important if

1145
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:16,670
not more so that he's really speaking my

1146
00:54:23,340 --> 00:54:18,710
language now because his new book which

1147
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:23,350
is right now available is all about this

1148
00:54:30,010 --> 00:54:27,440
analysis of the statuary and the stone

1149
00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:30,020
work I come to this you know full of

1150
00:54:33,220 --> 00:54:32,030
symbols and speaking the language of art

1151
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:33,230
I've never

1152
00:54:36,550 --> 00:54:35,090
I barely know how to use a hammer I'm

1153
00:54:38,620 --> 00:54:36,560
not much of a machinist I don't know

1154
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:38,630
things like that but Christopher is one

1155
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:40,250
of those guys that actually has to take

1156
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,990
a block of stone and cut it down into

1157
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,240
shapes he does metalworking in stone and

1158
00:54:48,130 --> 00:54:45,920
so he has this extremely pragmatic

1159
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:48,140
knowledge of what's necessary to

1160
00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:51,590
accomplish some of the statuary in Egypt

1161
00:54:55,870 --> 00:54:53,320
and one of the things that impressed me

1162
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,880
just he perfectly proved this is the

1163
00:55:01,210 --> 00:54:57,760
essence of good science by the way

1164
00:55:03,220 --> 00:55:01,220
everybody in Orthodox Egyptology will

1165
00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:03,230
continue to insist that the tools that

1166
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:04,790
Egypt had available to them were these

1167
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:09,110
stone balls and copper chisels and you

1168
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:10,400
know people say they didn't even they

1169
00:55:16,180 --> 00:55:12,650
hadn't even invented the wheel yet but

1170
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:16,190
Christopher Dunn shows in one example

1171
00:55:20,740 --> 00:55:18,320
there's a statue this the statue of

1172
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:20,750
Ramses in Luxor there's statues of them

1173
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:21,710
all over they're massive they're

1174
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:26,480
absolutely gigantic they are I had an

1175
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:27,500
appreciation for this because I've tried

1176
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:29,600
to do this myself when you want to scan

1177
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:30,650
something here you want to create

1178
00:55:33,850 --> 00:55:32,000
something on a computer you have to take

1179
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:33,860
a very special kind of photograph called

1180
00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:35,330
an isometric photograph or an

1181
00:55:40,210 --> 00:55:37,640
orthographic photograph that removes all

1182
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:40,220
of the depth of field and all the

1183
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:41,750
vanishing points and it's just this flat

1184
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:43,730
accurate picture of the outline of

1185
00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:45,770
something so he took all of these

1186
00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:48,620
engineering photographs of the statuary

1187
00:55:51,610 --> 00:55:49,940
and he put them in the computer for

1188
00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:51,620
analysis and he was just trying to

1189
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:54,230
figure out what tools reused or it was

1190
00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:55,850
this possible if you carve things by

1191
00:56:01,120 --> 00:55:58,190
hand and what he found was if you take a

1192
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,130
mirror and hold it down the central axis

1193
00:56:06,289 --> 00:56:03,200
of the statue the left side of the

1194
00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:06,299
statue matched the right side exact

1195
00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:09,640
exactly the cheeks the eyebrows the eyes

1196
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:13,420
the nose the lips the chin his

1197
00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:16,450
presentation on that is is a

1198
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:19,270
game-changer it is actually game changer

1199
00:56:24,329 --> 00:56:22,210
and all by itself peels away one of

1200
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:24,339
those layers of smugness from Egyptology

1201
00:56:27,809 --> 00:56:26,530
that absolutely doesn't make sense it's

1202
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,819
one of the most ridiculous things in

1203
00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:28,960
Egyptology that these people

1204
00:56:37,049 --> 00:56:30,670
accomplished all of that only with stone

1205
00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:37,059
chisels red granite and his his his

1206
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:41,230
presentation on that of the of the arcs

1207
00:56:48,299 --> 00:56:45,520
the arches the the spheres and how it

1208
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:48,309
had to be it wasn't somebody just

1209
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:50,650
attacking that with with the stone

1210
00:56:57,059 --> 00:56:53,319
hammer going okay I'm gonna create this

1211
00:56:58,079 --> 00:56:57,069
it that is clearly not the case and he

1212
00:56:59,520 --> 00:56:58,089
said an interesting thing that I've

1213
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:59,530
never really talked about another thing

1214
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:00,880
about engineering is that you have

1215
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,440
different tolerances Christopher's all

1216
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:04,240
about precision that's right

1217
00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:05,890
and you have different tolerances so if

1218
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:07,720
you're making a scarecrow

1219
00:57:12,210 --> 00:57:10,180
you don't need millimeter precision on

1220
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:12,220
this scarecrow if you're making a work

1221
00:57:16,049 --> 00:57:14,290
of art it doesn't matter that these

1222
00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:16,059
things are symmetrical and in fact most

1223
00:57:22,410 --> 00:57:18,660
organic things aren't symmetrical but

1224
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:22,420
these statues don't have well according

1225
00:57:25,319 --> 00:57:23,530
to our understanding of what these

1226
00:57:27,870 --> 00:57:25,329
statues were for they don't have to be

1227
00:57:30,299 --> 00:57:27,880
perfect like this but they are built to

1228
00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:30,309
this precision that is damn near

1229
00:57:34,829 --> 00:57:32,109
impossible with the height of Technology

1230
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:34,839
right now Robert Bauval talks a lot

1231
00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:36,250
about the size of the stones and how

1232
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:38,470
modern-day cranes literally would have

1233
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,450
trouble lifting much less you know

1234
00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:41,920
accurately placing these stones

1235
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:44,260
Christopher's so hands-on he's all about

1236
00:57:49,170 --> 00:57:46,510
the actual machining and how do you get

1237
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:49,180
a stone to do this he says in his book

1238
00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:51,040
he spent his life running his hands over

1239
00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:52,839
surfaces to check for perfections and

1240
00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:54,280
and very much like that whole

1241
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,900
interesting conversation about the

1242
00:57:59,490 --> 00:57:57,520
crystal skulls when you look

1243
00:58:02,670 --> 00:57:59,500
microscopically at these surfaces there

1244
00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:02,680
are no chisel marks this looks like it

1245
00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:04,869
was machine made although you know

1246
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:06,849
nobody's ever found any machines so it

1247
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:08,410
must be some kind of technology we don't

1248
00:58:12,299 --> 00:58:10,750
understand but that's just absolutely

1249
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:12,309
fascinating to me and it is literally

1250
00:58:16,589 --> 00:58:14,290
the essence in the heart of what magical

1251
00:58:18,569 --> 00:58:16,599
Egypt is trying to do is reclaim this

1252
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:18,579
subject that belongs to all of us out of

1253
00:58:21,749 --> 00:58:19,089
it

1254
00:58:24,989 --> 00:58:21,759
you know clutching hands of this one

1255
00:58:27,329 --> 00:58:24,999
obscure brand you know subscrive Li

1256
00:58:29,009 --> 00:58:27,339
insular branch of the humanities that

1257
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:29,019
are telling everyone else no you can't

1258
00:58:33,390 --> 00:58:31,839
have a say and what it is it's a it's

1259
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:33,400
all a surreal it's like a little boy

1260
00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:34,960
taking his basketball home so no one

1261
00:58:39,479 --> 00:58:37,960
else can play and I saw John West this

1262
00:58:42,029 --> 00:58:39,489
man that I loved and whose might you

1263
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:42,039
know in many ways my mentor and father

1264
00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:44,410
he spent his whole life banging his head

1265
00:58:48,779 --> 00:58:46,660
against this wall he genuinely thought

1266
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:48,789
one day Egyptology would say you're

1267
00:58:53,609 --> 00:58:50,650
right we're wrong everything we said was

1268
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:53,619
wrong it's never going to happen so it

1269
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:55,450
occurred to me that if we change the

1270
00:59:02,279 --> 00:58:58,960
venue change the arena of combat take it

1271
00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:02,289
away from the historical perspective and

1272
00:59:05,069 --> 00:59:03,940
let's look at it through the eyes of art

1273
00:59:07,979 --> 00:59:05,079
let's look at it through the eyes of

1274
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:07,989
science and it's a different place than

1275
00:59:12,269 --> 00:59:10,569
we were told and in specifically the

1276
00:59:14,339 --> 00:59:12,279
most exciting way that there's something

1277
00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:14,349
there for us this is a birthright for us

1278
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:16,150
and it tells you something about

1279
00:59:22,529 --> 00:59:20,799
yourself that I bet you didn't know that

1280
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:22,539
question what are we here for right and

1281
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:24,609
when we come back I want to talk about

1282
00:59:31,289 --> 00:59:28,930
Edie Nightingale and yeah and I've had

1283
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:31,299
some of the most amazing guests on this

1284
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:34,930
show to talk about Egypt Edie was one of

1285
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:38,559
those conversations that absolutely

1286
00:59:43,499 --> 00:59:41,609
changed my paradigm my worldview

1287
00:59:45,539 --> 00:59:43,509
absolutely incredible one of the most

1288
00:59:47,099 --> 00:59:45,549
humble guys out there too as well we'll

1289
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,109
discuss that because we already touched

1290
00:59:51,390 --> 00:59:50,319
upon the Fibonacci sequence well that's

1291
00:59:54,509 --> 00:59:51,400
what we're gonna do next we're gonna

1292
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:54,519
talk about ed Nightingale the magical

1293
00:59:59,309 --> 00:59:56,799
Egypt symposium is going on right now we

1294
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,319
put up all of the links for it in

1295
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:01,119
Twitter you can go and do that you can

1296
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:03,609
also go to magical Egypt calm our guest

1297
01:00:07,650 --> 01:00:05,410
tonight chance Gardner I'll be right

1298
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:07,660
back after this short break stay with us

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01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:24,720
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Church radio calm now chance this is

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before we get to ed Nightingale you and

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I will be doing our thing tomorrow and

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there I just receive a can't talk about

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it

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until the paper is published but I will

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sent the paper in advance but it in this

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in this white paper there and now

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:39,390
appears to be eight additional chambers

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01:05:47,279 --> 01:05:42,970
inside of the Great Pyramid now now now

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01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:47,289
now I I can't I can't jump ahead and and

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and get to specifics here but we do have

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the new chamber that you know has that

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01:06:00,510 --> 01:05:57,250
has been talked about and release we

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01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:00,520
know about that and this is this is one

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01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:05,520
of the things that blows my mind that

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the other two pyramids there and you

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01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:15,010
know Makara those Egyptologists want us

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:16,900
to believe that there's nothing inside

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:20,890
of them yeah okay I call BS there there

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01:06:28,289 --> 01:06:23,770
is absolutely no way that those are just

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solid right just stop with that but when

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we look at the Great Pyramid this is

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what I am struck with and I'm going to

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take this further tomorrow with you is

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not not old not ten thousand years old

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I'm talking about immortal right that I

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just think that it is so phenomenally

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old and the reason why I come to this

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01:07:01,030 --> 01:06:58,450
conclusion is that when we look across

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the Nile at Cairo

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has been leveled over time repeatedly

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with earthquakes and weathering is a

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that that is what but yet the pyramid is

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is is they're unchanged but also look at

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Rome Rome Rome at Rome before it was a

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city at 400 BC was mud huts and you can

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see the degradation over time with with

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Rome look at Greece look at any other

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:37,040
megalithic site around the world safe

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for gobekli tepe

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and that was deliberately buried but

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01:07:48,220 --> 01:07:44,380
everything else has degraded degraded

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01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:48,230
simple and and even the pyramids around

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01:07:53,650 --> 01:07:51,470
the Great Pyramid all of the other sites

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01:07:56,830 --> 01:07:53,660
around ancient Egypt everything has

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01:08:01,300 --> 01:07:56,840
degraded over time not the Great Pyramid

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01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,310
and I need I need clarification on that

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01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:04,160
and and Egyptology is not going to give

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01:08:08,770 --> 01:08:07,630
that to me I see something that is is

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01:08:10,810 --> 01:08:08,780
immortal

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:10,820
I can't think of another word but

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:12,530
something so majestic that has

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01:08:22,180 --> 01:08:18,130
absolutely sat there unchanged forever

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01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:22,190
Laird's you know Laird's wife Risa one

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:23,839
time when I was at Larry's place in New

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01:08:27,340 --> 01:08:26,210
York she said this thing and she said it

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I don't know if she was joking or not

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01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:30,560
but it just Manik never left my head she

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01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:31,490
said the only thing that would really

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01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:34,010
explain the Great Pyramid is time travel

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that it at some moment in the future may

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be the last moment before humanity you

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01:08:43,900 --> 01:08:41,210
know that killed somehow we all came

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back in time to a place before you know

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01:08:49,539 --> 01:08:46,700
human habitation and we built this thing

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:49,549
it's almost impossible to explain unless

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01:08:55,150 --> 01:08:51,650
it's always been there unless the

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dinosaurs built it I don't I'm totally

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01:09:03,789 --> 01:08:57,920
with Reese on that I'm totally with her

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01:09:06,970 --> 01:09:03,799
you I see something that is ageless yeah

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that's it that's there I don't when

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01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:11,690
somebody comes up and some educated

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:16,199
you know somebody that has got letters

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01:09:20,599 --> 01:09:18,690
after their name and they want to tell

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01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:20,609
me well you know you know it's all you

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01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:23,190
know 2600 BC and you know it's fine

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01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:27,900
no do you do not know or do that yet you

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01:09:34,459 --> 01:09:30,900
don't know don't tell me that you know

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01:09:36,829 --> 01:09:34,469
because you don't there's nothing that

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01:09:40,849 --> 01:09:36,839
you could give to me as evidence of

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01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:40,859
dating of the Great Pyramid or or of the

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01:09:47,780 --> 01:09:44,730
Sphinx or anything else I am sorry about

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that you weren't out there you weren't

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and and you look at when you look at the

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family's pyramids along the side of the

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Great Pyramid

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01:09:59,209 --> 01:09:57,090
you know Khufu Khafre whatever you want

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01:10:02,359 --> 01:09:59,219
to say whoever's in there wife son

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01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:02,369
daughter aunt great-uncle whatever those

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01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:07,380
things are crumbling piles of stone and

1495
01:10:12,919 --> 01:10:09,900
and that was them trying to replicate

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:12,929
what was there that's that's it and it

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01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:15,570
didn't stand that those didn't stand the

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01:10:21,740 --> 01:10:19,440
test of time right so right you just

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01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:21,750
that's it that's that's where I met I'm

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gonna go further with this tomorrow with

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01:10:30,109 --> 01:10:27,179
everybody but that's that eyes I see

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01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:30,119
immortality it is one of the most

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01:10:33,859 --> 01:10:31,520
interesting things in the world and

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01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:33,869
anybody who's been to Egypt when you

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01:10:37,939 --> 01:10:36,329
stand face to face and look at those

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01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:37,949
stones you put your hands on those

1507
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,449
stones those things are geological those

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01:10:46,430 --> 01:10:44,159
are old in geological terms not

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:46,440
sociological terms that the ruins there

1510
01:10:50,330 --> 01:10:48,449
and the most crazy thing that nobody

1511
01:10:52,129 --> 01:10:50,340
acknowledges but that if you go there

1512
01:10:54,169 --> 01:10:52,139
and if you spend time there the oldest

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01:10:57,109 --> 01:10:54,179
things from the first dynasty of ancient

1514
01:10:59,359 --> 01:10:57,119
Egypt were built over the top of things

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01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:59,369
that were incredibly old when they were

1516
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:01,320
and speaking you know gobekli tepe has

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01:11:05,149 --> 01:11:04,050
been sort of on cotton balls and so it

1518
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,159
preserved really well

1519
01:11:10,939 --> 01:11:08,480
these things were so old and so exposed

1520
01:11:12,729 --> 01:11:10,949
seemingly thousands maybe tens of

1521
01:11:13,879 --> 01:11:12,739
thousands of years before the Egyptians

1522
01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:13,889
rebuilt

1523
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:15,750
you know the exploded pyramid and the

1524
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:19,679
red pyramid less famous pyramids but two

1525
01:11:24,710 --> 01:11:22,230
really cool ones they're built over the

1526
01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:24,720
top of things that were already in cred

1527
01:11:28,460 --> 01:11:26,940
the old ruins and the valley temple as

1528
01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:28,470
well if people have been to the Sphinx

1529
01:11:33,410 --> 01:11:30,840
there's this two places in Egypt that

1530
01:11:35,150 --> 01:11:33,420
have architecture that's like Stonehenge

1531
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:35,160
it's nothing like Egyptian architecture

1532
01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:38,760
one is the Osirian in Abydos and one is

1533
01:11:42,140 --> 01:11:40,230
the valley temple that's right next to

1534
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,150
the Sphinx so everybody goes in and sees

1535
01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:44,880
this thing and there are places on the

1536
01:11:47,660 --> 01:11:46,380
John West tour I believe you've been on

1537
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:47,670
the John West tour as well you probably

1538
01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:48,930
remember this when he takes you to a

1539
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:51,900
corner and he shows you this stonework

1540
01:11:55,580 --> 01:11:53,850
which is beautiful red granite stone and

1541
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:55,590
it doesn't come to a corner it's

1542
01:12:00,140 --> 01:11:58,410
actually curved you know it's it's

1543
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:00,150
curved which is just how would you even

1544
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:02,910
do that the inside of a room doesn't

1545
01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:04,650
have sharp corners has curved corners

1546
01:12:09,650 --> 01:12:06,630
and this stone Livingstone actually

1547
01:12:12,170 --> 01:12:09,660
bends but the point I'm getting to is

1548
01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:12,180
that there's parts where this I call it

1549
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:13,800
modern it's relatively modern it's old

1550
01:12:18,110 --> 01:12:15,840
to us but this thing was built over

1551
01:12:20,780 --> 01:12:18,120
something else and when the stone falls

1552
01:12:22,190 --> 01:12:20,790
away you can see the crumbled remains of

1553
01:12:24,350 --> 01:12:22,200
the stuff that was there underneath it

1554
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:24,360
the same as the true with some of the

1555
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:27,330
pyramids and in fact that thing that

1556
01:12:32,540 --> 01:12:30,960
massive flat area that is like Cape

1557
01:12:34,940 --> 01:12:32,550
Canaveral I mean it's that big it's like

1558
01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:34,950
a launch pad rocket launch pad perfectly

1559
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:37,740
flat giant but if the pyramid weren't

1560
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:38,730
even there I think we've talked about

1561
01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:42,090
this before just the flat engineering of

1562
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:44,070
the stone the pyramid sets on which

1563
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:45,450
clearly had to be there you know before

1564
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:47,730
the pyramid that's a massive but it's an

1565
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:49,410
engineering feat no one can explain so

1566
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:51,210
you're absolutely correct and it's one

1567
01:12:54,860 --> 01:12:53,190
of the first mysteries that jumps out of

1568
01:12:56,710 --> 01:12:54,870
the first riddles that jumps out at you

1569
01:12:59,360 --> 01:12:56,720
when you go to ancient Egypt that

1570
01:13:01,790 --> 01:12:59,370
clearly this place is so old that

1571
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,800
there's no explanation for it and then

1572
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:03,600
suddenly you start bumping up against

1573
01:13:08,570 --> 01:13:05,490
all the social engineers and people that

1574
01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:08,580
I have seen some kind of weird vested

1575
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,960
interest in us not knowing about our

1576
01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:11,040
past

1577
01:13:16,190 --> 01:13:13,620
it's an unusual branch of science

1578
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:16,200
because very few branches of science

1579
01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:18,510
there's such active subterfuge you know

1580
01:13:24,260 --> 01:13:22,440
I often talk about Isaac Newton said

1581
01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:24,270
I've got where I am by standing on the

1582
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,280
shoulders of giants and so much if we

1583
01:13:29,420 --> 01:13:28,080
know about Egypt came to us by standing

1584
01:13:32,210 --> 01:13:29,430
on the shoulders of idiots that were

1585
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:32,220
just completely wrong right right right

1586
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:32,640
right

1587
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:34,560
you have to unlearn what you know and

1588
01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:35,970
then go to Egypt and then it'll start

1589
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:37,500
speaking to you yeah

1590
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:40,080
we can talk about the two and a half

1591
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:42,480
million blocks we could talk about how

1592
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:45,690
they did it and and and be fascinated

1593
01:13:51,650 --> 01:13:48,570
with that conversation but it doesn't he

1594
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,660
actually even start there for me your

1595
01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:54,000
you you touched upon one of the most

1596
01:14:01,070 --> 01:13:56,430
important aspects of the Great Pyramid

1597
01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:01,080
that is 13 acres of perfectly leveled

1598
01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:03,960
stone work was done before the the

1599
01:14:12,050 --> 01:14:08,310
construction of the pyramid 13 acres and

1600
01:14:15,170 --> 01:14:12,060
those stones that the pyramid is built

1601
01:14:18,230 --> 01:14:15,180
on each one of those stones weighs more

1602
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:18,240
than a car and they leveled out and

1603
01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:21,810
Pratt that surface leveled it and

1604
01:14:27,020 --> 01:14:25,260
pointed it directly to True North before

1605
01:14:31,460 --> 01:14:27,030
they ever started building the pyramid

1606
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:31,470
that that is a mind-blowing concept you

1607
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:35,820
need to start there and I I don't know

1608
01:14:41,330 --> 01:14:37,950
how they did it and that's why you know

1609
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:41,340
this is the thing chance we really

1610
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:44,490
really need to sit down and stress this

1611
01:14:50,210 --> 01:14:46,650
with all of the Egyptologists that are

1612
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:50,220
trying to force this issue down our

1613
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:53,790
throats if you want to sit and tell me

1614
01:15:01,520 --> 01:14:56,970
that this was done at 3,000 BC or 2650

1615
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:01,530
or 2700 BC when nobody had the knowledge

1616
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:04,320
of leveling and engineering and

1617
01:15:09,530 --> 01:15:07,440
architecture and and they didn't have a

1618
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:09,540
CAD computer system they didn't have

1619
01:15:16,670 --> 01:15:12,260
anything like this they know lasers

1620
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:16,680
nothing you know maybe a square maybe

1621
01:15:22,850 --> 01:15:19,970
some type of rudimentary leveling device

1622
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:22,860
maybe but the rest of the world did not

1623
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:26,490
and they did not have the technology to

1624
01:15:33,380 --> 01:15:31,110
level 13 acres and and know why they had

1625
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:33,390
to do it that's because the knowledge

1626
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:36,810
was already there and it was it was it

1627
01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:39,570
was done long before by somebody else it

1628
01:15:49,150 --> 01:15:43,260
wasn't done at 2650 BC they didn't have

1629
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:49,160
that knowledge yep and its location is

1630
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:51,000
exactly at the

1631
01:15:54,740 --> 01:15:53,070
zero Meridian you know before we went to

1632
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:54,750
Greenwich Mean Time that's the zero

1633
01:16:00,110 --> 01:15:57,930
Meridian it's literally the exact center

1634
01:16:01,490 --> 01:16:00,120
if you draw diagonals across the

1635
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:01,500
landmass of the whole earth you know if

1636
01:16:04,010 --> 01:16:02,490
you take the earth and flatten it out

1637
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:04,020
and then draw diagonals through the

1638
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,050
landmass the exact center of the land

1639
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:09,360
masses on earth is where the pyramid is

1640
01:16:16,820 --> 01:16:14,640
where the pyramid is situated now that's

1641
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:16,830
C and that's where Edna Nightingale

1642
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:20,010
comes in what a great segue okay well

1643
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:21,890
hold on for a second before I get to add

1644
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:26,880
when we talk about Khafre and that the

1645
01:16:32,780 --> 01:16:29,040
the center pyramid everybody it's the

1646
01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:32,790
middle one that it is solid that there's

1647
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:33,750
nothing in there

1648
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:37,890
why what's your opinion why nobody over

1649
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,170
the years hasn't come up and removed

1650
01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:43,520
stones and looked for foreign entrance

1651
01:16:48,430 --> 01:16:46,470
you know honestly I have to choose my

1652
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:48,440
words carefully here cuz I don't like

1653
01:16:52,970 --> 01:16:50,730
offending people but I think they have

1654
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:52,980
known for a really long time and if you

1655
01:16:56,150 --> 01:16:54,690
have enough money I was there one time I

1656
01:16:58,460 --> 01:16:56,160
got kicked off the Giza Plateau because

1657
01:16:59,630 --> 01:16:58,470
the in perugia pan was there and

1658
01:17:02,720 --> 01:16:59,640
apparently he's more important than I am

1659
01:17:04,190 --> 01:17:02,730
if you have a lot of money you can pay

1660
01:17:06,290 --> 01:17:04,200
to go see some places that the regular

1661
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:06,300
public can't go and I don't want to say

1662
01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:08,010
anything bad about any particular person

1663
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:11,220
if you've been to Egypt there's a

1664
01:17:15,710 --> 01:17:12,930
different way of doing business there

1665
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:15,720
and they're very poor people and so you

1666
01:17:19,970 --> 01:17:17,970
can expect people there economically

1667
01:17:22,670 --> 01:17:19,980
depressed to bend the rules a little bit

1668
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:22,680
and Egypt is one of those places where

1669
01:17:25,460 --> 01:17:23,730
if you have a little money to spread

1670
01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:25,470
around there is nothing that is not

1671
01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:28,350
denied to you and you know we saw it in

1672
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:31,470
the States during the OJ trial that if

1673
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,030
you don't have money most of the rules

1674
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:36,000
don't apply to you and I believe I

1675
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:38,100
genuinely believe that they've known

1676
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:39,210
about these things

1677
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:42,030
maybe all along or maybe just in the

1678
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:44,550
last six years technologies come become

1679
01:17:48,650 --> 01:17:46,530
available and much more practical to

1680
01:17:51,470 --> 01:17:48,660
literally see through things the Great

1681
01:17:52,970 --> 01:17:51,480
Pyramid was remarkable because there's

1682
01:17:54,740 --> 01:17:52,980
something about it that we still don't

1683
01:17:56,660 --> 01:17:54,750
understand you can't x-ray you can't

1684
01:17:58,190 --> 01:17:56,670
look through it it's why that Moulin

1685
01:18:00,500 --> 01:17:58,200
Group the Japanese group that did the

1686
01:18:01,790 --> 01:18:00,510
Moulin Studies that uncovered that room

1687
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:01,800
recently

1688
01:18:05,180 --> 01:18:03,450
that was really clever it's the first

1689
01:18:07,790 --> 01:18:05,190
time we've ever been able to figure out

1690
01:18:09,050 --> 01:18:07,800
what material actually goes through the

1691
01:18:11,090 --> 01:18:09,060
pyramid so that we can check

1692
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:11,100
scientifically like you would an x-ray

1693
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:12,570
you know or an ultrasound or something

1694
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:14,370
so you can't ultrasound it you can't

1695
01:18:20,750 --> 01:18:17,130
x-ray it they do heat studies and that

1696
01:18:22,910 --> 01:18:20,760
kind of tells you but and this is just I

1697
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:22,920
couldn't produce evidence of this in the

1698
01:18:26,780 --> 01:18:25,170
court of law but if you've been there

1699
01:18:28,220 --> 01:18:26,790
and if you understand anything that's

1700
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:28,230
this important on this closely-guarded

1701
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:30,450
and if you understand the nature of the

1702
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:32,010
humanities and people having to protect

1703
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:34,110
their reputations and so on it's not

1704
01:18:39,380 --> 01:18:36,060
above us

1705
01:18:40,940 --> 01:18:39,390
you know a scientist or somebody choose

1706
01:18:43,220 --> 01:18:40,950
my words again I don't want to paint

1707
01:18:44,900 --> 01:18:43,230
with too horrible a brush but when

1708
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:44,910
you're the expert of something and then

1709
01:18:48,530 --> 01:18:46,860
new evidence comes along to completely

1710
01:18:50,660 --> 01:18:48,540
invalidate everything you've said it's

1711
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:50,670
kind of a basic human emotion to want to

1712
01:18:55,580 --> 01:18:52,440
protect your place and protect your

1713
01:18:56,900 --> 01:18:55,590
all-knowing persona and and then the

1714
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:56,910
other thing as I said was if you've got

1715
01:18:59,660 --> 01:18:58,170
a little bit of money it's a whole

1716
01:19:01,220 --> 01:18:59,670
different place in Egypt you can see

1717
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:01,230
things that regular public aren't

1718
01:19:06,020 --> 01:19:04,320
allowed to go so I think that one of the

1719
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:06,030
things that's remarkable about Egypt and

1720
01:19:11,090 --> 01:19:08,910
remarkable about this territorialism is

1721
01:19:13,940 --> 01:19:11,100
that they all know that they're wrong

1722
01:19:15,230 --> 01:19:13,950
and there's something about I don't know

1723
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:15,240
if it's government it's hard not to

1724
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:17,010
lapse into conspiracies here but you

1725
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:18,810
know in China you can't talk about the

1726
01:19:22,250 --> 01:19:20,820
pyramids you literally get executed if

1727
01:19:24,170 --> 01:19:22,260
you there's some huge pyramids three

1728
01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:24,180
pyramids in China that they've grown

1729
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:25,590
over with grass and they pretend they're

1730
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:31,170
not there the early conquistadors and

1731
01:19:34,730 --> 01:19:32,970
early representatives of the Catholic

1732
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:34,740
Church were quite fond of destroying

1733
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:38,250
indigenous cultures and eliminating

1734
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:39,810
their writing you know the Mayan codices

1735
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:42,930
the meiyan meiyan books were mostly

1736
01:19:47,060 --> 01:19:45,300
burned and really were of the devil and

1737
01:19:49,190 --> 01:19:47,070
there was this moment famous moment in

1738
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:49,200
history where one of the conquerors in

1739
01:19:56,540 --> 01:19:54,450
the you know in the the Crusades one of

1740
01:19:59,090 --> 01:19:56,550
the great Sultan's he found this just

1741
01:20:01,040 --> 01:19:59,100
treasure trove of ancient writing and he

1742
01:20:02,780 --> 01:20:01,050
said well if it's in the Quran it's

1743
01:20:05,170 --> 01:20:02,790
redundant and if it's not in the Quran

1744
01:20:08,330 --> 01:20:05,180
it's of the devil so burn it all and

1745
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:08,340
there has been this systematic scouring

1746
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:11,840
of the voice of these ancient people and

1747
01:20:18,109 --> 01:20:15,510
to this day you run into a lot of weird

1748
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:18,119
resistance if you start I'm sure told

1749
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:19,920
you that's even in Australia you kind of

1750
01:20:22,970 --> 01:20:21,570
get in trouble if you start pointing out

1751
01:20:24,290 --> 01:20:22,980
megalithic ruins and they're all over

1752
01:20:25,910 --> 01:20:24,300
the place here and there in New Zealand

1753
01:20:29,450 --> 01:20:25,920
and I know some friends it actually went

1754
01:20:31,490 --> 01:20:29,460
to jail for publishing things that just

1755
01:20:34,129 --> 01:20:31,500
show there was ancient civilizations

1756
01:20:35,930 --> 01:20:34,139
here you know in Australia it appears to

1757
01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:35,940
Sylvia the Egyptians came here to mine

1758
01:20:42,049 --> 01:20:39,199
gold King Tut King Tut's face mask has a

1759
01:20:43,879 --> 01:20:42,059
Australian gold and it has opals you

1760
01:20:44,930 --> 01:20:43,889
know that only occur in Australia and a

1761
01:20:46,939 --> 01:20:44,940
couple other things and there's

1762
01:20:49,279 --> 01:20:46,949
boomerangs you know in the Cairo Museum

1763
01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:49,289
and the Aborigines here of all things

1764
01:20:52,490 --> 01:20:50,820
nobody listens to the Aborigines for

1765
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:52,500
some reason here but they're quite vocal

1766
01:20:56,209 --> 01:20:54,239
about the fact that ancient Egypt came

1767
01:20:59,029 --> 01:20:56,219
here and they were magicians and they

1768
01:21:01,220 --> 01:20:59,039
loved the aborigine people and they came

1769
01:21:03,259 --> 01:21:01,230
for the gold and so there is this

1770
01:21:04,970 --> 01:21:03,269
institutional resistance and I don't

1771
01:21:06,350 --> 01:21:04,980
understand but you know you don't need

1772
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:06,360
to understand why offense is there to

1773
01:21:11,870 --> 01:21:07,679
bump up against it all the time

1774
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:11,880
yeah I know I I would if I had control

1775
01:21:17,299 --> 01:21:14,610
of Giza while I would do two things one

1776
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:17,309
I would build a giant vacuum cleaner and

1777
01:21:24,589 --> 01:21:19,320
I would just suck up the sand for about

1778
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:24,599
for about 50 square miles right I want

1779
01:21:27,740 --> 01:21:26,369
to know what's under the sand that's the

1780
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:27,750
first thing but the second thing I would

1781
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,480
do is I would I would get some teams

1782
01:21:35,779 --> 01:21:33,360
together and some cranes and I would go

1783
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:35,789
and start removing the blocks on Macari

1784
01:21:43,939 --> 01:21:40,320
and and Khafre yeah I would start to

1785
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:43,949
look for entrances and if if we believe

1786
01:21:49,549 --> 01:21:47,010
what they are saying that Makka rebuilt

1787
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,559
it for him and and calf rebuilt you know

1788
01:21:55,009 --> 01:21:51,840
the the middle pyramid for him then

1789
01:21:58,459 --> 01:21:55,019
there must be a king's chamber in each

1790
01:22:01,640 --> 01:21:58,469
one right if we believe what they are

1791
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:01,650
saying yeah and the idea that they would

1792
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:04,110
never think of having a tomb that isn't

1793
01:22:07,879 --> 01:22:05,610
covered in hieroglyphs and there's no

1794
01:22:09,379 --> 01:22:07,889
writing there's nothing Egyptian inside

1795
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:09,389
the pyramid well that's because they

1796
01:22:15,859 --> 01:22:11,610
were built before hieroglyphics or even

1797
01:22:18,529 --> 01:22:15,869
a language that's working that's why now

1798
01:22:23,810 --> 01:22:18,539
okay so you just brought up the Meridian

1799
01:22:25,939 --> 01:22:23,820
and that that that's one thing one of

1800
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:25,949
many that at night

1801
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:28,440
presented with the Fibonacci sequence

1802
01:22:34,189 --> 01:22:31,440
coming off of the crown of of the Great

1803
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:34,199
Sphinx and this is the thing and I want

1804
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:36,810
to talk about this before we get to the

1805
01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:39,780
break it's one thing when you look at

1806
01:22:45,860 --> 01:22:40,940
Ed's

1807
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:45,870
research just on the Giza Plateau as the

1808
01:22:54,260 --> 01:22:49,770
fibonacci unwinds and and all of this

1809
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:54,270
math starts to surface but it expands

1810
01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:57,840
all the way out into the universe right

1811
01:23:02,419 --> 01:23:01,380
it's the Milky Way and you have to ask

1812
01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:02,429
yourself

1813
01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:06,270
Ed's work on this is extraordinary but

1814
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:07,590
then you have to stop and ask yourself

1815
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:09,810
what knowledge where did the knowledge

1816
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:13,050
come from to reach out into the stars

1817
01:23:19,130 --> 01:23:16,650
like that not I mean Sirius is obvious

1818
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:19,140
and Orion is obvious but that's not what

1819
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:20,610
we're talking about we're talking about

1820
01:23:27,050 --> 01:23:24,690
the Milky Way in in general which is way

1821
01:23:29,630 --> 01:23:27,060
beyond all of this what do you think

1822
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:29,640
about Ed's research when when he does

1823
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:33,330
this presentation as another one of

1824
01:23:37,490 --> 01:23:34,770
those people like Christopher that when

1825
01:23:39,709 --> 01:23:37,500
he's through with you you cannot argue

1826
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:39,719
you can't argue I mean as I keep saying

1827
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:41,130
I don't want to harp on this but the

1828
01:23:45,650 --> 01:23:42,510
difference between the humanities and

1829
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:45,660
the sciences you can't have an opinion

1830
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:47,910
about math you can't say well in my

1831
01:23:52,250 --> 01:23:50,130
opinion one and one equals three the

1832
01:23:54,050 --> 01:23:52,260
sciences prove themselves the scientists

1833
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:54,060
solve themselves the nature of science

1834
01:23:59,000 --> 01:23:56,100
is that you can't say something's true

1835
01:24:01,550 --> 01:23:59,010
until it proves itself and when you look

1836
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:01,560
at the proofs that Edie and Christopher

1837
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:03,210
and all of us in our own way are

1838
01:24:07,250 --> 01:24:05,250
presenting if you actually obey the

1839
01:24:08,660 --> 01:24:07,260
rules of science you don't end up with

1840
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:08,670
something that maybe this or maybe that

1841
01:24:14,419 --> 01:24:12,480
it demonstrates to you I know from my

1842
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:14,429
study of the art that the Fibonacci

1843
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:16,110
Fibonacci by the way in case people

1844
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,489
don't know what that word is is if you

1845
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,199
looked at a sunflower or an artichoke

1846
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:22,080
there's that that really unique spiral I

1847
01:24:25,070 --> 01:24:23,610
think the square root of two spiral

1848
01:24:27,530 --> 01:24:25,080
which doesn't mean anything with them

1849
01:24:30,979 --> 01:24:27,540
it's this spiral that you see everywhere

1850
01:24:33,169 --> 01:24:30,989
in nature and it because as things grow

1851
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:33,179
they grow according to the spiral so you

1852
01:24:35,689 --> 01:24:34,800
see it in Nautilus shells you see it in

1853
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:35,699
sunflower seeds

1854
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:38,000
you see it in the spiraling of galaxies

1855
01:24:41,689 --> 01:24:39,360
literally every

1856
01:24:45,709 --> 01:24:41,699
it's alive and organic if you look hard

1857
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:45,719
enough will Express this Fibonacci

1858
01:24:48,979 --> 01:24:47,760
sequence and then the other thing I know

1859
01:24:51,290 --> 01:24:48,989
the brother or sister of it is the

1860
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,300
golden section where your whole body is

1861
01:24:58,129 --> 01:24:53,520
just this bouquet of golden section

1862
01:24:59,689 --> 01:24:58,139
relationships and they it's another

1863
01:25:02,600 --> 01:24:59,699
thing that the Egyptology denies that

1864
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:02,610
the Egyptians knew but you you know I

1865
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:03,840
showed in the very first episode there's

1866
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hundreds of examples of perfect

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Fibonacci progressions and the golden

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section use of the golden section which

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is you know to your point earlier about

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why is it so beautiful everything they

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do is grid it out beforehand according

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to the this organic geometry and that's

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why we have this involuntary response to

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it because we are made of that and in

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some way that's hard to articulate

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consciousness partakes of that same

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01:25:34,399 --> 01:25:31,520
geometric structure and so they used

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geometry on the ground playing a plan as

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well and that's why there's just some

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keys if you understand the keys to Egypt

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01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,030
it starts talking to you I think that

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01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:46,080
Ed's work is as important as anything

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01:25:56,899 --> 01:25:53,689
educational systems and on the fringe

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too as well in our community what you're

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01:26:03,350 --> 01:25:59,310
absolutely right when you when ed is

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done with you if you can't argue it is

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01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:06,179
absolutely remarkable and it all starts

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at the crown of the Sphinx it's

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fascinating

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yeah that movie with Anakin Skywalker's

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called jumpers it's kind of a pop you

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01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,230
know kind of a superficial film but so

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01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:20,880
there was a scene where he was jumping

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01:26:24,290 --> 01:26:22,980
he was kind of teleporting and one of

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01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:24,300
the scenes was he teleported on to the

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head of the Sphinx just this beautiful

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01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:28,560
beautiful shot aerial shot no I didn't

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but you have a way of segwaying right

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01:26:39,979 --> 01:26:38,639
into something hey speaking of pop

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culture we've only got about a minute

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left i i watch all of the pop you know

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like gods of egypt right i'll watch all

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of these films and go back

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01:26:55,180 --> 01:26:52,889
look at the symbolism that is that is

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01:26:59,149 --> 01:26:55,190
there and I think that more and more

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Hollywood these screenwriters and the

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01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:01,440
researchers that go into these films

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they study man they study it and it is

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spot-on

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I really enjoy Stargate is an amazing

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01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:16,340
film and the opening that opening scene

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with James Spader when he's at like the

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Metropolitan or he's you know whatever

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museum he's had and he's giving the

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presentation and and and he brings up he

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01:27:34,820 --> 01:27:32,639
brings up Howard vice-like Wow okay so

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the thing is what was great about that

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was when somebody in the audience raises

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their hand and says well okay if the

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01:27:45,169 --> 01:27:41,790
Egyptians didn't build the pyramids who

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01:27:47,419 --> 01:27:45,179
did and Spader goes well I don't know

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01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:47,429
and everybody that's up and walks out

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01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:50,250
and I thought that's exactly where we

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01:27:55,609 --> 01:27:53,310
are with our with our community today

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01:27:58,220 --> 01:27:55,619
these are the things that we discuss I

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01:28:01,640 --> 01:27:58,230
enjoy the way that Hollywood does their

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01:28:02,810 --> 01:28:01,650
research but it's just something and

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01:28:04,729 --> 01:28:02,820
there's this whole thing is that in the

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zeitgeist if somebody actually no that

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01:28:08,660 --> 01:28:06,719
was one of those examples he keep seeing

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them that this is in the public psyche

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we all really all know this and everyone

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01:28:15,109 --> 01:28:13,560
is so interested five year olds and a

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01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:15,119
hundred year olds there's just something

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01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:16,500
in our collective consciousness that

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we're all looking to Egypt and waiting

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for something to happen that's gonna

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01:28:25,010 --> 01:28:23,070
change everything and maybe it's just

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that the people are in charge are really

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happy with the way things are they're

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01:28:29,359 --> 01:28:27,480
perfectly happy that we're using

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01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:29,369
gasoline and petroleum they're perfectly

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01:28:33,530 --> 01:28:31,530
happy with you know that we have some

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01:28:35,810 --> 01:28:33,540
freedoms but a lot of things we don't

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01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:35,820
have freedom and and and if you think of

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01:28:39,379 --> 01:28:37,260
the world more as a people farm

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01:28:41,209 --> 01:28:39,389
then as a park or everyone's operating

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01:28:43,580 --> 01:28:41,219
there's a lot of reasons to keep things

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:43,590
the way they are and so this thing that

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01:28:47,390 --> 01:28:45,210
you hear a lot in the UFO community as

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01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:47,400
well if you really told the truth about

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01:28:51,229 --> 01:28:49,050
this place it's gonna raise some huge

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01:28:52,729 --> 01:28:51,239
questions about you know how did they do

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01:28:54,979 --> 01:28:52,739
this without gasoline how did they do it

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:54,989
without engines and all of a sudden is

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01:28:58,669 --> 01:28:56,730
there another technology that's clean

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01:29:00,290 --> 01:28:58,679
and naturally-occurring that if you knew

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01:29:01,709 --> 01:29:00,300
enough about telluric energy and

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01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:01,719
magnetism and

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01:29:05,820 --> 01:29:03,790
and sound you know into vibration there

1961
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:05,830
are much more sophisticated sciences

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:07,600
that we should have been onto by now you

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01:29:11,310 --> 01:29:08,650
know we shouldn't have been doing

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01:29:14,250 --> 01:29:11,320
gasoline after 1900s it's just a

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01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:14,260
terrible idea but there's so much money

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:15,880
that we're never allowed to evolve out

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01:29:21,330 --> 01:29:19,090
of it and somehow this idea that we used

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01:29:25,530 --> 01:29:21,340
to be so much smarter and didn't need

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01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:25,540
traditional tools that I think I mean

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01:29:29,970 --> 01:29:26,770
the only thing I can think of about why

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01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:29,980
it's so it seems so important that we're

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01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:31,510
not allowed to know or talk about this

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01:29:38,430 --> 01:29:34,510
maybe in some way like that that there's

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01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:38,440
just something that happens or something

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01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:39,820
that's brought to light I think he'd

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01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:40,900
asked about this last time we talked

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01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:42,960
there might be some things that make it

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01:29:47,700 --> 01:29:45,160
incontrovertible that we're all living a

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01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:47,710
lie of sorts and that we shouldn't be

1980
01:29:51,930 --> 01:29:49,750
watching TV and we shouldn't be pursuing

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01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:51,940
you know our next Lexus but that there's

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01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:53,410
something really important we're all

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01:29:57,209 --> 01:29:54,910
supposed to be doing that we only have

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01:29:59,880 --> 01:29:57,219
one lifetime to do and we've been

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01:30:01,020 --> 01:29:59,890
completely distracted from it just like

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01:30:02,250 --> 01:30:01,030
if you have a duck farm

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01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:02,260
you don't want ducks to know about

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01:30:06,030 --> 01:30:04,870
migration and you know it was even

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01:30:07,260 --> 01:30:06,040
better as if you can convince them they

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01:30:08,780 --> 01:30:07,270
don't know how to fly so you don't have

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01:30:11,130 --> 01:30:08,790
to build fences

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01:30:13,410 --> 01:30:11,140
that's exactly right we got to take a

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break right here so let's do that our

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guest tonight chance gardener we're

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talking about the magical Egypt online

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symposium and all stuff Egypt tonight

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with chance gardener our Merrill Stubing

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church this is fade to black stay with

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jaime Church this is a

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[Applause]

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welcome back fade to black I'm here to

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be church tonight chance gardeners here

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magical Egypt the online symposium is

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going on right now and you get all the

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information by going to magically Jib

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calm we've got all of the links up both

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over on the website and of course

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Twitter and chance we're going through

2087
01:35:34,370 --> 01:35:30,329
this and one of the aspects of Egypt

2088
01:35:36,770 --> 01:35:34,380
that if you're in our circle that's one

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01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:36,780
thing but outside of the circle it's

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01:35:43,370 --> 01:35:40,110
hermeticism you know and we've got to go

2091
01:35:46,430 --> 01:35:43,380
there now you landed my low man and I

2092
01:35:51,049 --> 01:35:46,440
got a Oh Oh before we get to lon

2093
01:35:52,370 --> 01:35:51,059
did you know he was a musician I I'm

2094
01:35:53,629 --> 01:35:52,380
hesitant to say this because I'm sure

2095
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:53,639
I'm gonna embarrass myself I've been

2096
01:35:56,810 --> 01:35:55,110
playing guitar with lawn for a couple of

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01:35:59,450 --> 01:35:56,820
decades long as a huge friend of mine

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01:36:01,069 --> 01:35:59,460
and he and I performed together for a

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01:36:03,410 --> 01:36:01,079
while when I was in California I love

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01:36:04,879 --> 01:36:03,420
him like I know that he's like two

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01:36:07,759 --> 01:36:04,889
people he's long the musician he was

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01:36:10,459 --> 01:36:07,769
very famous very famous very famous and

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01:36:13,549 --> 01:36:10,469
and this is the thing and we were

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01:36:15,740 --> 01:36:13,559
talking about this earlier you know we

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01:36:17,299 --> 01:36:15,750
just had Kurt James on the show and one

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01:36:20,450 --> 01:36:17,309
of the things about fade to black

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01:36:23,899 --> 01:36:20,460
is the the you know the combination of

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01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:23,909
of music and musicians and these

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01:36:29,029 --> 01:36:26,159
subjects I'm fascinated with that and

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01:36:31,370 --> 01:36:29,039
Lana's one of those caps man he's just

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01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:31,380
the nicest guy he reminds me of Berle

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01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:34,110
lives are saying Santa Claus rolled into

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01:36:38,299 --> 01:36:36,690
one right right right right and it's

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01:36:40,569 --> 01:36:38,309
such a funny person you don't find many

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01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:40,579
funny people in this genre and and

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01:36:46,250 --> 01:36:44,239
hermeticism right well that amazing so

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01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:46,260
the things that we've been talking about

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01:36:50,750 --> 01:36:47,610
have been very technical and engineering

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:50,760
and stone oriented but one of the things

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01:36:53,930 --> 01:36:52,650
that is really the life force of magical

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01:36:56,810 --> 01:36:53,940
egypt in addition to this technical

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01:37:00,459 --> 01:36:56,820
business is a lot of the people in the

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01:37:01,669 --> 01:37:00,469
show are talking specifically about

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esotericism

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one of the people that i just a huge

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friend of mine is just a really

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01:37:09,529 --> 01:37:07,590
remarkable person is dr. Aaron cheek who

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01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:09,539
is a very good friend of mine but the

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01:37:12,649 --> 01:37:10,650
thing that we kind of bonded over

2130
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:12,659
originally was his actual doctoral

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01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:15,119
thesis was in choix Lord Anubis and this

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01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:17,280
guy his he's a doctor of comparative

2133
01:37:21,450 --> 01:37:19,570
religion and so here's a very

2134
01:37:23,339 --> 01:37:21,460
credible person that understands all of

2135
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:23,349
these different traditional religious

2136
01:37:27,359 --> 01:37:25,810
you know esoteric systems Aaron's doing

2137
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:27,369
a talk called the hermetic arts as

2138
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:29,679
Egyptian sciences and when people think

2139
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:33,280
about esotericism or you know the occult

2140
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:35,050
that comes from Egypt if you think of

2141
01:37:38,669 --> 01:37:37,090
alchemy typically but there are three

2142
01:37:40,350 --> 01:37:38,679
sister Sciences Aaron's gonna do a

2143
01:37:42,330 --> 01:37:40,360
fantastic presentation of this the three

2144
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:42,340
sister Sciences in Egypt where alchemy

2145
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:46,570
seer G and astrology and I don't know if

2146
01:37:50,510 --> 01:37:48,730
you've ever watched this but Michael

2147
01:37:53,970 --> 01:37:50,520
Schneider who was in the original

2148
01:37:56,010 --> 01:37:53,980
magical Egypt show the way Egyptians did

2149
01:37:58,140 --> 01:37:56,020
math and multiplication and it's not the

2150
01:38:00,689 --> 01:37:58,150
way we do it but it works it's different

2151
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:00,699
but it works and it's the height of

2152
01:38:03,870 --> 01:38:02,710
ridiculous hubris to say well they're

2153
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:03,880
wrong because they don't do it the way

2154
01:38:08,370 --> 01:38:06,040
that we do because there's a lot of ways

2155
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:08,380
if you use Egyptian math you can do

2156
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:10,210
things that you can't do in our math and

2157
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:12,310
you know I'm sure it works the other way

2158
01:38:18,060 --> 01:38:15,489
too but Aaron shows so alchemy most

2159
01:38:22,169 --> 01:38:18,070
people are familiar with alchemy seer G

2160
01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:22,179
and astrology all form this triad and in

2161
01:38:26,189 --> 01:38:25,060
this way are kind of the three sides of

2162
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:26,199
you know here's the science that applies

2163
01:38:28,979 --> 01:38:27,610
to mind here's the science that applies

2164
01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:28,989
to the outside world here's the science

2165
01:38:35,609 --> 01:38:30,940
that applies to the Stars and they're

2166
01:38:40,350 --> 01:38:35,619
all interconnected we also have Thomas

2167
01:38:45,089 --> 01:38:40,360
Brown Joseph Thomas Brown and Thomas

2168
01:38:49,250 --> 01:38:45,099
Sheridan both of them talking about how

2169
01:38:51,780 --> 01:38:49,260
do well first of all Thomas Sheridan is

2170
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:51,790
really getting into this sort of gibster

2171
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:55,510
idea that you can judge the caliber or

2172
01:38:58,919 --> 01:38:57,040
the grade or the quality of

2173
01:39:00,359 --> 01:38:58,929
consciousness of a civilization how

2174
01:39:02,609 --> 01:39:00,369
smart they were and they just calibrate

2175
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:02,619
their consciousness by looking at their

2176
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:05,920
art by their architecture mythos the

2177
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:08,710
architecture and all of that julia

2178
01:39:11,939 --> 01:39:10,000
cannon that's gonna be talking about

2179
01:39:14,729 --> 01:39:11,949
this is the daughter of dolores cannon

2180
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:14,739
who she's a past life regression astir

2181
01:39:19,020 --> 01:39:17,440
and she's done so many past life

2182
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:19,030
regressions that she started finding

2183
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:20,770
this thing that she didn't expect that

2184
01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:22,960
in between incarnations there's this

2185
01:39:28,020 --> 01:39:25,150
kind of place you go and many people

2186
01:39:29,939 --> 01:39:28,030
describe it similarly and just as a

2187
01:39:31,709 --> 01:39:29,949
personal aside when I hear a lot of

2188
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:31,719
Freddie Mercury songs I think that must

2189
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:33,010
be the song that's

2190
01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:34,930
in the waiting room between incarnations

2191
01:39:39,180 --> 01:39:37,960
that but anyway the Egyptian esotericism

2192
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:39,190
that you talk about the reason that's so

2193
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:41,770
important that's why each IFFT is for

2194
01:39:45,900 --> 01:39:43,840
you everyone listening Egypt is talking

2195
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:45,910
specifically to you and when you hear

2196
01:39:51,630 --> 01:39:49,510
these words like esotericism or seer G

2197
01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:51,640
or astrology it's just really this

2198
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:54,670
science of understanding your psyche

2199
01:40:01,340 --> 01:39:59,280
your connection to the outside world and

2200
01:40:04,650 --> 01:40:01,350
specifically these very specific

2201
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:04,660
instructions about how you can maximize

2202
01:40:08,940 --> 01:40:07,630
yourself like any bodybuilder you're not

2203
01:40:10,650 --> 01:40:08,950
finished when you're born you're all

2204
01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:10,660
scrawny and ropey and stuff and there's

2205
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:11,980
this thing that you can do with this

2206
01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:13,690
practice that makes your muscles big and

2207
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:16,750
your body beautiful there are that same

2208
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:18,730
science does that to your mind you know

2209
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:21,040
imagine a ripped mind and a six-pack up

2210
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:23,970
in your head and this ancient ancient

2211
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:27,930
science isn't just materialistic it

2212
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:30,730
describes consciousness but not just the

2213
01:40:33,930 --> 01:40:32,320
cycle that we know about that you know

2214
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:33,940
you start as conception and then you're

2215
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:35,050
incubated in the womb and then you're

2216
01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:36,370
born and then you're a child and you're

2217
01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:37,480
adult then you die

2218
01:40:42,690 --> 01:40:40,630
this science follows the entire cycle of

2219
01:40:48,270 --> 01:40:42,700
consciousness from life to life to life

2220
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:48,280
and it's very touching thing John West

2221
01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:50,800
right before he died the last project he

2222
01:40:54,690 --> 01:40:52,060
worked on before he died as he

2223
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:54,700
co-authored a book that just compiled

2224
01:40:58,920 --> 01:40:57,010
the millions and millions of stories of

2225
01:41:00,690 --> 01:40:58,930
people who come back from the dead or

2226
01:41:02,910 --> 01:41:00,700
children who were born that have a

2227
01:41:04,650 --> 01:41:02,920
complete accurate memory of their life

2228
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:04,660
before so you know a little

2229
01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:06,489
seven-year-old kid says my real name is

2230
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:08,620
John Weston I was a world war two pilot

2231
01:41:13,050 --> 01:41:10,690
my wife's name is Beatrice we were live

2232
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:13,060
at one to seven fake Street and you go

2233
01:41:17,370 --> 01:41:15,600
and there's Beatrice at that address and

2234
01:41:19,020 --> 01:41:17,380
it's another one of those things that

2235
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:19,030
Orthodox science just hates to talk

2236
01:41:23,130 --> 01:41:20,200
about it's a good way to get eyes

2237
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:23,140
rolling but the science of the ancient

2238
01:41:27,570 --> 01:41:25,600
world as will be detailed by a number of

2239
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:27,580
people in the symposium draws attention

2240
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:29,830
to this other model of consciousness

2241
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:31,210
where your consciousness just the way

2242
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:32,620
that you've you know imagine if you're

2243
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:33,730
still driving the first car you ever

2244
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:34,530
owned

2245
01:41:41,820 --> 01:41:37,930
you keep trading up these vehicles like

2246
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:41,830
a cosmic what's that video game Grand

2247
01:41:45,630 --> 01:41:43,330
Theft Auto you know you keep trading up

2248
01:41:46,980 --> 01:41:45,640
you keep trading your vehicles and and

2249
01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:46,990
your consciousness keeps a

2250
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:48,550
living through this series of

2251
01:41:54,290 --> 01:41:51,760
incarnations and so there's this idea

2252
01:41:56,370 --> 01:41:54,300
that Plato came up or the Plato

2253
01:42:00,510 --> 01:41:56,380
postulated this thing called anamnesis

2254
01:42:02,490 --> 01:42:00,520
and what it means is soul memory and I

2255
01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:02,500
think part of the reason why people

2256
01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:04,750
response so much to just looking at

2257
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:06,760
ancient Egypt is that either one of

2258
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:08,530
these two models is correct that you're

2259
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:10,510
just dead but the big black sack once

2260
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:12,880
you're dead or you're not and

2261
01:42:16,530 --> 01:42:14,290
consciousness is this thing that lives

2262
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:16,540
on from body to body and over you know

2263
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:18,910
vast amounts of time and so if the

2264
01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:20,560
premise is true that you've lived

2265
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,600
millions perhaps of lives

2266
01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:24,880
this idea of anamnesis means that you

2267
01:42:28,290 --> 01:42:26,860
never learn anything new but when you

2268
01:42:30,030 --> 01:42:28,300
see something that's true that you

2269
01:42:32,940 --> 01:42:30,040
learned in some previous incarnation you

2270
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:32,950
instantly recognize it's true and so the

2271
01:42:36,270 --> 01:42:34,810
way that we respond to music you just

2272
01:42:37,710 --> 01:42:36,280
either like something right away or you

2273
01:42:39,480 --> 01:42:37,720
don't and the way you see someone's face

2274
01:42:40,860 --> 01:42:39,490
you've never seen before but you you

2275
01:42:42,810 --> 01:42:40,870
already know you have chemistry with

2276
01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:42,820
them and you have some dynamic where you

2277
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:44,230
have to you know get up in their tree

2278
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,610
and figure out why they're look so

2279
01:42:49,110 --> 01:42:47,920
familiar to you so I love this idea and

2280
01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:49,120
it works in art - the reason why we

2281
01:42:52,620 --> 01:42:51,220
respond to art some people love Jackson

2282
01:42:55,500 --> 01:42:52,630
Pollock and some people love Salvador

2283
01:42:57,780 --> 01:42:55,510
Dali that you recognize something from

2284
01:43:00,540 --> 01:42:57,790
previous life's I probably told you this

2285
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:00,550
I play guitar my whole life but there's

2286
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:02,890
a fairly famous guitar player in Los

2287
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:04,570
Angeles that I used to sit with and I

2288
01:43:08,010 --> 01:43:06,070
would sit with him and I found that I

2289
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:08,020
you know just a couple of weeks of

2290
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:09,610
playing guitar with this guy I connected

2291
01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:11,530
to what must have been a hundred years

2292
01:43:16,170 --> 01:43:13,180
worth of guitar lessons like I've never

2293
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:16,180
taken a guitar lesson and I just all of

2294
01:43:19,530 --> 01:43:18,220
a sudden discovered that I fully I had

2295
01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:19,540
this just like suitcase I've never

2296
01:43:25,130 --> 01:43:20,710
looked in before that was full of

2297
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:25,140
guitarists who was knowledge who wasn't

2298
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:27,010
we've talked to him like he doesn't like

2299
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:28,210
it when I drop his name you and I have

2300
01:43:30,420 --> 01:43:29,440
talked to him he used to used to live in

2301
01:43:35,010 --> 01:43:30,430
the same building with him when you

2302
01:43:36,630 --> 01:43:35,020
lived by uh okay all right no okay okay

2303
01:43:41,490 --> 01:43:36,640
he gets mad when I drop his name but

2304
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:41,500
anyway he's amazing but I'm just sitting

2305
01:43:44,910 --> 01:43:43,090
in his field you know sitting next to

2306
01:43:46,380 --> 01:43:44,920
him and I just all of a sudden was like

2307
01:43:48,330 --> 01:43:46,390
I could do these things that aren't are

2308
01:43:49,950 --> 01:43:48,340
not easy and I'm just you know I'm not a

2309
01:43:52,050 --> 01:43:49,960
meticulous person and I certainly

2310
01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:52,060
haven't spent enough time to earn the

2311
01:43:58,620 --> 01:43:55,600
right to play guitar but that's just my

2312
01:44:00,750 --> 01:43:58,630
personal story but you know um

2313
01:44:02,670 --> 01:44:00,760
there were so many people who've

2314
01:44:05,220 --> 01:44:02,680
connected with something important about

2315
01:44:06,180 --> 01:44:05,230
themselves that they don't know why they

2316
01:44:08,250 --> 01:44:06,190
know it they don't know why they're

2317
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:08,260
compelled to do it and so I found this

2318
01:44:14,150 --> 01:44:11,890
idea of soul memory very interesting and

2319
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:14,160
it certainly jives with the Egyptian

2320
01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:17,290
model of consciousness that you have

2321
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:19,960
this massive store of information you

2322
01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:22,210
can draw upon if you learn how to do it

2323
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:24,550
there's additional artist knows how to

2324
01:44:33,770 --> 01:44:27,250
draw on that voice isn't it fascinating

2325
01:44:36,660 --> 01:44:33,780
how hermeticism and Thoth and the entire

2326
01:44:39,630 --> 01:44:36,670
educational system in the around the

2327
01:44:41,730 --> 01:44:39,640
world all got together in Egypt shared

2328
01:44:46,220 --> 01:44:41,740
their ideas and that we're talking about

2329
01:44:49,340 --> 01:44:46,230
2000 BC right yeah right and

2330
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:49,350
conservatively and how that knowledge

2331
01:44:56,130 --> 01:44:52,030
influenced everything on this planet it

2332
01:44:59,670 --> 01:44:56,140
is permeated out and into every culture

2333
01:45:01,230 --> 01:44:59,680
here and you can here see the symbols

2334
01:45:02,430 --> 01:45:01,240
what's kind of interesting Oh Graham

2335
01:45:03,630 --> 01:45:02,440
Hancock says this all the time we're a

2336
01:45:06,420 --> 01:45:03,640
species with amnesia

2337
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:06,430
these symbols all attest and you see

2338
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:07,570
them in architecture like you can walk

2339
01:45:10,980 --> 01:45:09,040
down the street in London and you can

2340
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:10,990
see these symbols these architectural

2341
01:45:14,430 --> 01:45:12,610
symbols like architecture speaks in this

2342
01:45:17,130 --> 01:45:14,440
language just like hieroglyphs oh sorry

2343
01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:17,140
you know heraldry coat of arms how

2344
01:45:21,420 --> 01:45:18,310
there's a language of that there's all

2345
01:45:25,020 --> 01:45:21,430
kinds of visual languages and yeah that

2346
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:25,030
just that amazes me the the symbolism of

2347
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:29,530
the Sun and the winged disc and what it

2348
01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:32,290
represents look we can we can talk about

2349
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:34,540
Sitchin we can talk about each palate we

2350
01:45:43,230 --> 01:45:38,950
can talk about why Isis whatever you

2351
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:43,240
want to attribute to it but the

2352
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:45,610
symbolism is there and it is everywhere

2353
01:45:51,450 --> 01:45:49,690
on this planet we were talking about we

2354
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:51,460
were talking about I brought up the gods

2355
01:45:59,190 --> 01:45:56,560
of Egypt earlier the the the winged disk

2356
01:46:01,950 --> 01:45:59,200
it could it be a craft could it be

2357
01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:01,960
Nibiru could it be this come okay well

2358
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:05,260
put all of that aside the way that

2359
01:46:12,750 --> 01:46:08,560
Hollywood dealt with it in

2360
01:46:16,890 --> 01:46:12,760
and the gods movie that I was talking

2361
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:16,900
about earlier was they had rah was

2362
01:46:23,370 --> 01:46:21,130
pulling the Sun with chains around

2363
01:46:24,810 --> 01:46:23,380
have you seen gods of Egypt you know

2364
01:46:27,660 --> 01:46:24,820
it's you know it's been on my list and I

2365
01:46:30,660 --> 01:46:27,670
just haven't - haven't you just go and

2366
01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:30,670
watch it because everything that we talk

2367
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:32,500
about on the show touch upon in the

2368
01:46:39,210 --> 01:46:34,480
movie all of the gods are there and and

2369
01:46:42,180 --> 01:46:39,220
so forth but rah has got this platform

2370
01:46:46,230 --> 01:46:42,190
this ship this satellite and he's

2371
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:46,240
orbiting the Earth and he is towing the

2372
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:50,290
Sun with chains why he's circling the

2373
01:46:55,470 --> 01:46:52,810
earth and you know every 24 hours he but

2374
01:46:58,230 --> 01:46:55,480
you have to see how they deal with it

2375
01:47:01,920 --> 01:46:58,240
which goes back to you know the the Sun

2376
01:47:04,650 --> 01:47:01,930
disc in the wing disc but this symbolism

2377
01:47:07,110 --> 01:47:04,660
is everywhere on this planet and it all

2378
01:47:10,830 --> 01:47:07,120
started you know right there in Egypt

2379
01:47:12,810 --> 01:47:10,840
yeah you know if you look around there

2380
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:12,820
if you look at the Sumerians and

2381
01:47:17,730 --> 01:47:15,010
Acadians and I'm I'm fascinated with

2382
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:17,740
zecharia sitchin except if you talk

2383
01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:18,910
about him at all you have to acknowledge

2384
01:47:23,670 --> 01:47:22,180
that he's one of like eight or nine or

2385
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:23,680
twelve people in the world that can read

2386
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:25,600
that language and everyone else that can

2387
01:47:31,010 --> 01:47:27,040
read the language says he's full of [\h__\h]

2388
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:31,020
he's like it's weird everything right

2389
01:47:36,180 --> 01:47:34,690
and I really want that to be true

2390
01:47:38,490 --> 01:47:36,190
because that is the coolest and explain

2391
01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:38,500
so much and there's a lot of crazy

2392
01:47:41,580 --> 01:47:40,150
people just making stuff up and there's

2393
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:41,590
a whole cottage industry of just making

2394
01:47:45,390 --> 01:47:43,450
stuff up about that but there's some

2395
01:47:48,420 --> 01:47:45,400
really careful people and you know Lloyd

2396
01:47:50,910 --> 01:47:48,430
Pye Roberto I know every word of Lloyd

2397
01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:50,920
Pye Lloyd Pye is another one those

2398
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:52,780
people it's really hard to argue if he

2399
01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:55,330
even shows that our DNA is not natural

2400
01:47:59,420 --> 01:47:57,520
we have these last two chromosomes or

2401
01:48:03,990 --> 01:47:59,430
whatever refused and that our DNA

2402
01:48:05,550 --> 01:48:04,000
appears to have had modified and saying

2403
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:05,560
who did that you know it's kind of Lee

2404
01:48:09,540 --> 01:48:07,840
but it's you can't deny the fact that

2405
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:09,550
our DNA isn't like anything else on

2406
01:48:16,290 --> 01:48:14,320
earth and I really love that whole idea

2407
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:16,300
because in a way it puts a neat bow on

2408
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:17,920
where did this anomalous information

2409
01:48:20,850 --> 01:48:19,570
come from but also when you think about

2410
01:48:22,110 --> 01:48:20,860
you know America has only been around

2411
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:22,120
for a couple hundred years and

2412
01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:23,650
look where we've come we've come from

2413
01:48:30,090 --> 01:48:27,550
oxen plough to satellites and it only

2414
01:48:32,010 --> 01:48:30,100
took 200 years so if Egyptians stood in

2415
01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:32,020
place for even 5000 years you can

2416
01:48:36,210 --> 01:48:34,510
imagine just human ingenuity and human

2417
01:48:37,290 --> 01:48:36,220
intellect over the space of leap in the

2418
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:37,300
thousand years you're gonna come up with

2419
01:48:41,070 --> 01:48:39,460
some amazing things better I believe

2420
01:48:42,900 --> 01:48:41,080
there's a point at which you can't

2421
01:48:44,490 --> 01:48:42,910
progress technologically there's a point

2422
01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:44,500
at which you're all the way smart you

2423
01:48:47,790 --> 01:48:46,420
understand the game and then you don't

2424
01:48:50,460 --> 01:48:47,800
need machines as much because you can

2425
01:48:52,350 --> 01:48:50,470
use natural forces to do the amazing

2426
01:48:55,740 --> 01:48:52,360
things there's a guy out there his name

2427
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:55,750
is Eric bond and you spell his name

2428
01:49:05,810 --> 01:49:01,360
AE Rik Eric okay and go look up his work

2429
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:05,820
and and his essays but one of the things

2430
01:49:12,330 --> 01:49:09,520
that he presents is he debunks the

2431
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:12,340
debunkers right so and he's you know

2432
01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:15,250
he's a he's a very educated guy I'm not

2433
01:49:22,650 --> 01:49:18,900
gonna go there but his presentations on

2434
01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:22,660
debunking like Heiser who went out of

2435
01:49:26,130 --> 01:49:24,490
his way to tear stitching apart right

2436
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:26,140
he's got a website called stitching is

2437
01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:26,770
wrong

2438
01:49:32,430 --> 01:49:30,070
well anyway go and and and check out his

2439
01:49:35,010 --> 01:49:32,440
work because what he has done one of the

2440
01:49:38,850 --> 01:49:35,020
things that Heiser has said over the

2441
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:38,860
years is that go look at the Chicago

2442
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:43,290
University automatic look up for the

2443
01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:47,110
Cimmerian tax and and the gold has never

2444
01:49:52,050 --> 01:49:49,510
said once right Wow

2445
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:52,060
and when Heiser said that I went and

2446
01:49:56,580 --> 01:49:53,890
looked and I found out that Heiser was

2447
01:49:59,610 --> 01:49:56,590
actually wrong I couldn't like the time

2448
01:50:02,280 --> 01:49:59,620
to look and read up you know all of the

2449
01:50:04,860 --> 01:50:02,290
Sumerian texts and stuff but I knew that

2450
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:04,870
Heiser was wrong and I don't want to

2451
01:50:08,250 --> 01:50:06,370
take away from Michael I don't talk

2452
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:08,260
smack about anybody but what it did

2453
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:10,960
prevent me from doing is reading

2454
01:50:15,690 --> 01:50:13,360
anything more about Heiser I didn't I

2455
01:50:18,450 --> 01:50:15,700
wasn't concerned about it if you're

2456
01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:18,460
wrong once you know and you're attacking

2457
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:22,390
somebody so anyway an eric von hamburg's

2458
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:25,570
site he goes back and he analyzes all of

2459
01:50:33,090 --> 01:50:29,920
the Sumerian text which which clay

2460
01:50:33,970 --> 01:50:33,100
tablet the number and and any breaks it

2461
01:50:36,850 --> 01:50:33,980
all down and it's

2462
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:36,860
fascinating to read so go and actually

2463
01:50:42,010 --> 01:50:38,480
check that up before we get ahead of

2464
01:50:45,490 --> 01:50:42,020
ourselves I gotta say you got max Egon

2465
01:50:50,620 --> 01:50:45,500
coming on he's one of my favorite x-man

2466
01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:50,630
man man what is he gonna be talking

2467
01:50:57,190 --> 01:50:54,470
about he oh you know he's such a diverse

2468
01:50:58,930 --> 01:50:57,200
character he's a consultant for

2469
01:51:00,760 --> 01:50:58,940
international news he's on al-jazeera

2470
01:51:02,050 --> 01:51:00,770
all the time like actually on Iranian

2471
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:02,060
news I can't even figure out how he

2472
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:05,090
swings at anyway he's talking about this

2473
01:51:09,580 --> 01:51:06,410
question that's really been burdening me

2474
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:09,590
why has our history been hidden from us

2475
01:51:14,140 --> 01:51:12,320
is it part of just creating an

2476
01:51:16,210 --> 01:51:14,150
artificial bubble for us that

2477
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:16,220
disconnects us from our power Center but

2478
01:51:19,810 --> 01:51:18,290
max has this incredible as you know an

2479
01:51:21,729 --> 01:51:19,820
incredible analytical mind and he has

2480
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:21,739
this voice it's just like medicine it

2481
01:51:25,660 --> 01:51:23,810
just it heals my cells to hear him talk

2482
01:51:27,850 --> 01:51:25,670
he has such a pleasant voice and if you

2483
01:51:29,410 --> 01:51:27,860
ever come anyway remarkable man

2484
01:51:32,530 --> 01:51:29,420
incredible intelligence and he's this

2485
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:32,540
kind of a social analyst he living in

2486
01:51:35,740 --> 01:51:34,400
Australia now there's so few people here

2487
01:51:38,140 --> 01:51:35,750
and the police and the government are

2488
01:51:39,490 --> 01:51:38,150
really quite in your face and I think

2489
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:39,500
that technically we're all subjects of

2490
01:51:42,490 --> 01:51:41,090
the Queen so we have fewer rights here

2491
01:51:44,410 --> 01:51:42,500
and so this is one of those places where

2492
01:51:47,050 --> 01:51:44,420
you really need people like max to point

2493
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:47,060
out when society is starting to break

2494
01:51:50,590 --> 01:51:48,710
down and what you know basic human

2495
01:51:52,810 --> 01:51:50,600
sovereignty is and there's so many

2496
01:51:56,020 --> 01:51:52,820
incredible things it's just an advocate

2497
01:51:58,090 --> 01:51:56,030
for the growth of people and in this

2498
01:52:01,000 --> 01:51:58,100
case he's bringing his considerable

2499
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:01,010
intellect to bear on this mystery where

2500
01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:02,570
people who are actually looking at

2501
01:52:06,910 --> 01:52:04,120
ancient Egypt and looking at our past

2502
01:52:08,050 --> 01:52:06,920
see one thing but everything you hear

2503
01:52:09,970 --> 01:52:08,060
not everything most of the things you

2504
01:52:13,050 --> 01:52:09,980
hear on television in books in school

2505
01:52:16,210 --> 01:52:13,060
and academia are all creating this false

2506
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:16,220
sense of our past that is actually quite

2507
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:19,280
disempowering and also dis unifying I

2508
01:52:21,610 --> 01:52:20,330
know that's not a word but what's the

2509
01:52:24,610 --> 01:52:21,620
opposite of bringing people together it

2510
01:52:27,490 --> 01:52:24,620
isolates and disempowers the citizens

2511
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:27,500
and so when you hear max dissect some of

2512
01:52:32,140 --> 01:52:30,320
these situations and just point things

2513
01:52:34,990 --> 01:52:32,150
out to you thing after thing after thing

2514
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:35,000
about how the illusion that we live in

2515
01:52:41,020 --> 01:52:37,280
this free and intellectually free world

2516
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:41,030
when in fact it's you know almost 180

2517
01:52:44,140 --> 01:52:42,410
degrees away from that that there are

2518
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:44,150
sacred cow ideas that you better not

2519
01:52:46,250 --> 01:52:45,650
mess with whether they're true or not

2520
01:52:48,260 --> 01:52:46,260
and

2521
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:48,270
anyway he just he brings that one

2522
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:51,840
of-a-kind max Egon thing to a lot of

2523
01:52:54,710 --> 01:52:53,100
these subjects one of the first

2524
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:54,720
interviews I did for magical Egypt was

2525
01:52:59,390 --> 01:52:57,810
max he just lives up the road for me he

2526
01:53:02,450 --> 01:52:59,400
used to play guitar I was Steve ID you

2527
01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:02,460
know that max Egon played with Steve Vai

2528
01:53:06,860 --> 01:53:04,710
I didn't know that yeah once again you

2529
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:06,870
know we've made a 20 guitar connections

2530
01:53:09,590 --> 01:53:08,520
tonight on the show and I haven't done

2531
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:09,600
that in a while

2532
01:53:16,820 --> 01:53:12,930
why and I know we've touched upon this

2533
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:16,830
in the past chance but why hide our

2534
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:21,330
history and and continue because with it

2535
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:24,090
was easy to do 20 years ago right before

2536
01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:26,730
the Internet today that's not that kind

2537
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:29,310
of party and in yours box that's right

2538
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:32,610
and and we have the ability now to call

2539
01:53:40,130 --> 01:53:36,750
BS on a subject on any subject why

2540
01:53:42,740 --> 01:53:40,140
continue to hide our past yeah Brad

2541
01:53:44,900 --> 01:53:42,750
Claussen out of nowhere you know no

2542
01:53:47,570 --> 01:53:44,910
one's calling Brad and asking Brad about

2543
01:53:50,420 --> 01:53:47,580
our past he just like me he's an artist

2544
01:53:52,700 --> 01:53:50,430
he started pulling the thread on this

2545
01:53:56,090 --> 01:53:52,710
sweater and it just kept unraveling and

2546
01:53:59,450 --> 01:53:56,100
unraveling and suddenly he showed the

2547
01:54:02,360 --> 01:53:59,460
very oldest human the very first works

2548
01:54:04,610 --> 01:54:02,370
of art the Venus of Willendorf and these

2549
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:04,620
just weird little statues that look like

2550
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:07,530
a little fat woman with big boobs then

2551
01:54:12,140 --> 01:54:10,410
that statue progressed over time to

2552
01:54:14,300 --> 01:54:12,150
thousands and thousands of years and it

2553
01:54:17,780 --> 01:54:14,310
worked its way into the Diana and Athena

2554
01:54:20,900 --> 01:54:17,790
and Ishtar statues Ishtar was you know

2555
01:54:22,940 --> 01:54:20,910
the female got us from Sumeria oh I want

2556
01:54:24,530 --> 01:54:22,950
to talk about that winged a disc in

2557
01:54:26,170 --> 01:54:24,540
Sumeria by the way has a little guy in

2558
01:54:29,020 --> 01:54:26,180
it driving it around to your point

2559
01:54:33,979 --> 01:54:29,030
that's an interesting thing but anyway

2560
01:54:36,500 --> 01:54:33,989
I'm sorry you brought up you somehow we

2561
01:54:41,150 --> 01:54:36,510
weaved Brad Claussen into this

2562
01:54:43,700 --> 01:54:41,160
conversation oh there I wasn't even I'm

2563
01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:43,710
I'm holding off Brad for the next

2564
01:54:48,710 --> 01:54:46,800
segment and on top of that now I'm gonna

2565
01:54:51,050 --> 01:54:48,720
throw you into the bus you didn't get

2566
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:51,060
Brad his due he is one of the most

2567
01:54:56,150 --> 01:54:53,730
amazing artists on planet Earth Bar None

2568
01:54:57,140 --> 01:54:56,160
Ilias okay and you can't just bring in

2569
01:54:58,970 --> 01:54:57,150
Brad and

2570
01:55:00,110 --> 01:54:58,980
and not tell the audience who he is so

2571
01:55:03,170 --> 01:55:00,120
that's your fault

2572
01:55:05,650 --> 01:55:03,180
and I was holding off on that but so

2573
01:55:09,290 --> 01:55:05,660
let's okay let's say Brad for after

2574
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:09,300
after the break why is it that they

2575
01:55:17,210 --> 01:55:13,770
continue to suppress our history with us

2576
01:55:18,650 --> 01:55:17,220
what's the advantage of doing that this

2577
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:18,660
is another one where I have to tread

2578
01:55:24,410 --> 01:55:20,730
carefully and choose my words but there

2579
01:55:26,630 --> 01:55:24,420
is this organization this superstructure

2580
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:26,640
that is the most wealthy structure in

2581
01:55:29,630 --> 01:55:27,930
the world your rent of the Vatican

2582
01:55:32,330 --> 01:55:29,640
you're walking around the bed I have not

2583
01:55:33,980 --> 01:55:32,340
there is a lot of money in religion my

2584
01:55:36,620 --> 01:55:33,990
friend there's a lot of money in

2585
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:36,630
religion and the first thing that you

2586
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,730
understand the minute you make that leap

2587
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,080
and you start taking the Egyptian

2588
01:55:44,420 --> 01:55:42,480
seriously and you're like well maybe the

2589
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:44,430
people that made the pyramids might know

2590
01:55:48,110 --> 01:55:45,690
what they're talking about about this

2591
01:55:50,690 --> 01:55:48,120
other thing about consciousness and in a

2592
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:50,700
huge way if you buy into the Egyptian

2593
01:55:55,610 --> 01:55:54,210
model you've all of a sudden have well

2594
01:55:57,140 --> 01:55:55,620
it's you you've got to pick one or the

2595
01:56:00,320 --> 01:55:57,150
other you pick the model of

2596
01:56:02,540 --> 01:56:00,330
consciousness that modern Western

2597
01:56:04,460 --> 01:56:02,550
Christianity presents or you present

2598
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:04,470
this other model it has a very different

2599
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:06,570
story about what happens after you die

2600
01:56:09,740 --> 01:56:08,130
and what happens before you die a very

2601
01:56:11,630 --> 01:56:09,750
different story about the role of people

2602
01:56:12,710 --> 01:56:11,640
although you know assault through

2603
01:56:14,990 --> 01:56:12,720
allegory that if you look at the

2604
01:56:16,970 --> 01:56:15,000
allegories right but it's a sort of game

2605
01:56:19,630 --> 01:56:16,980
of Chinese whispers that one of the

2606
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:19,640
things I found is almost all of the

2607
01:56:23,900 --> 01:56:21,930
secretary way and this is the case of a

2608
01:56:25,550 --> 01:56:23,910
symbolism in general anything good is

2609
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,560
gonna have layers of application and

2610
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:28,320
layers of meaning so as ed and Laird

2611
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:30,210
point out if you look at a symbol it has

2612
01:56:33,740 --> 01:56:31,770
a biological significance it has a

2613
01:56:35,470 --> 01:56:33,750
scientific significance it as a mental a

2614
01:56:38,990 --> 01:56:35,480
psychological significance it has a

2615
01:56:41,450 --> 01:56:39,000
scientific there's the embryology so

2616
01:56:42,740 --> 01:56:41,460
there's layers of every symbol and so a

2617
01:56:44,060 --> 01:56:42,750
symbol doesn't have to in fact the

2618
01:56:46,730 --> 01:56:44,070
difference between a symbol and a sign

2619
01:56:48,410 --> 01:56:46,740
this is the science of semiotics the

2620
01:56:50,210 --> 01:56:48,420
difference between a symbol and a sign a

2621
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:50,220
sign just means one thing you see that

2622
01:56:54,860 --> 01:56:52,410
red octagon it means one thing but when

2623
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:54,870
you see the wing a disc it is an entire

2624
01:56:58,940 --> 01:56:57,210
college curriculum all crammed into one

2625
01:57:01,460 --> 01:56:58,950
little thing I'm folding and unfolding

2626
01:57:04,670 --> 01:57:01,470
right and that's one of the things that

2627
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:04,680
amazes me so again I'm sorry I take song

2628
01:57:08,399 --> 01:57:06,330
to answer your question but I really

2629
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:08,409
believe that

2630
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:12,050
anybody who has supremacy and control of

2631
01:57:17,290 --> 01:57:13,760
the world in such a massive income

2632
01:57:20,109 --> 01:57:17,300
stream is going to cause a problem for

2633
01:57:22,899 --> 01:57:20,119
you if you if the public starts looking

2634
01:57:25,870 --> 01:57:22,909
into alternate ways of thinking about

2635
01:57:29,890 --> 01:57:25,880
the afterlife and so there are a number

2636
01:57:33,790 --> 01:57:29,900
of people in our in our symposium that

2637
01:57:36,339 --> 01:57:33,800
are specifically talking about this

2638
01:57:38,620 --> 01:57:36,349
other model of consciousness where we're

2639
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:38,630
not always in physical bodies and that

2640
01:57:44,169 --> 01:57:42,170
really spirituality hermeticism the

2641
01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:44,179
message of hermeticism is you are not

2642
01:57:48,100 --> 01:57:46,280
your body you are this intelligence that

2643
01:57:49,689 --> 01:57:48,110
rides around in your meat wagon but

2644
01:57:54,299 --> 01:57:49,699
that's not you you're not the meat wagon

2645
01:57:56,799 --> 01:57:54,309
you are the passenger in the carriage

2646
01:57:58,959 --> 01:57:56,809
you don't have to choose your I'll

2647
01:58:01,629 --> 01:57:58,969
choose your words for you then so what

2648
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:01,639
you are suggesting is that if the

2649
01:58:10,689 --> 01:58:06,130
knowledge gets out that we don't need

2650
01:58:12,609 --> 01:58:10,699
the vatican religion in general that

2651
01:58:15,069 --> 01:58:12,619
it's all been a charade

2652
01:58:17,470 --> 01:58:15,079
then well there's gonna be a lot of

2653
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:17,480
pissed-off people but also the value of

2654
01:58:22,060 --> 01:58:19,840
the church negates and shrinks a

2655
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:22,070
substantial interruption and cash flow

2656
01:58:27,850 --> 01:58:24,530
and every organization is built to keep

2657
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that from happening you know yeah George

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welcome back fade to black I'm your host

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02:04:15,660 --> 02:04:13,210
Jimmy Church yes tonight chance gardener

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02:04:18,770 --> 02:04:15,670
magical Egypt the director magical Egypt

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one and two another doing an online

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symposium magical Egypt kicked off

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02:04:26,759 --> 02:04:24,219
yesterday October 1st and all of the

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links to the symposium are right there

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02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:29,530
at Jimmy Church radio calm we also have

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02:04:36,089 --> 02:04:32,530
it up in Twitter and magical Egypt calm

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02:04:39,870 --> 02:04:36,099
all the information is there chance that

2790
02:04:42,779 --> 02:04:39,880
alyssum Brad Claussen the we're talking

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02:04:46,950 --> 02:04:42,789
about obviously Pearl Jam but Metallica

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fish Alison chains one of the best

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02:04:51,299 --> 02:04:49,900
artists on the planet like this minute

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02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:51,309
he's working on something for Nine Inch

2795
02:04:57,330 --> 02:04:53,199
Nails but that's what I'm talking about

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02:05:01,589 --> 02:04:57,340
and his his presentation that he did in

2797
02:05:03,779 --> 02:05:01,599
magical Egypt to absolutely floored me

2798
02:05:05,399 --> 02:05:03,789
but if you are going to listen to

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02:05:08,399 --> 02:05:05,409
somebody talk about art and its

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02:05:10,799 --> 02:05:08,409
significance and its symbolism then you

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02:05:14,370 --> 02:05:10,809
have somebody like Brad Claussen on and

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02:05:17,669 --> 02:05:14,380
he is hands-down one of the great

2803
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:17,679
artists of our generation he really is

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02:05:22,649 --> 02:05:19,690
when you look at his work and I'm sure

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02:05:24,029 --> 02:05:22,659
he has a website but amazing work he

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02:05:26,219 --> 02:05:24,039
does concert posters and they're just

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02:05:28,379 --> 02:05:26,229
legendary and what makes him so powerful

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02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:28,389
is he uses esoteric symbolism I mean

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02:05:33,479 --> 02:05:30,610
that's his stock and trade and so it's

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02:05:36,450 --> 02:05:33,489
just dripping with esotericism and

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02:05:37,890 --> 02:05:36,460
hermeticism and a cult imagery and so

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02:05:40,649 --> 02:05:37,900
it's just in its hypnotic he's a

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02:05:45,229 --> 02:05:40,659
technical master but his use of

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02:05:47,879 --> 02:05:45,239
symbolism and just that raw power a

2815
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:47,889
remarkable remarkable man and as we've

2816
02:05:50,250 --> 02:05:49,090
discussed before just I think he's

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02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:50,260
listening right now so I'm not gonna say

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02:05:59,189 --> 02:05:56,050
anything bad about him he's a remarkable

2819
02:06:00,600 --> 02:05:59,199
remarkable man and was really I don't

2820
02:06:03,330 --> 02:06:00,610
know if you know this or if anybody

2821
02:06:04,859 --> 02:06:03,340
knows this but Brad was the one that

2822
02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:04,869
talked me into doing magical Egypt to

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02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:06,550
John had been bugging me about it for a

2824
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:08,710
while but you know how contentious the

2825
02:06:12,419 --> 02:06:10,210
world has got and I just sometimes don't

2826
02:06:14,850 --> 02:06:12,429
want to throw my hat into the fighting

2827
02:06:16,620 --> 02:06:14,860
ring and Brad was such a fan of the

2828
02:06:19,169 --> 02:06:16,630
original magical Egypt that he went with

2829
02:06:21,150 --> 02:06:19,179
John to Egypt because he was so inspired

2830
02:06:24,630 --> 02:06:21,160
by magical Egypt and

2831
02:06:26,250 --> 02:06:24,640
he had started to notice all of these

2832
02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:26,260
things in art and he didn't know what to

2833
02:06:29,220 --> 02:06:27,520
do with it nobody would take him

2834
02:06:32,190 --> 02:06:29,230
seriously and nobody would fund any

2835
02:06:33,540 --> 02:06:32,200
research and so he came to me with this

2836
02:06:36,030 --> 02:06:33,550
series of findings that we're going to

2837
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:36,040
talk about and it is another one of

2838
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:37,330
those game changes this should be called

2839
02:06:41,850 --> 02:06:39,280
the game changer symposium because every

2840
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:41,860
person here has thrown a spanner in the

2841
02:06:45,900 --> 02:06:44,050
works of Egyptian allegiant ology well

2842
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:45,910
you know you're an artist I'm an artist

2843
02:06:54,350 --> 02:06:51,370
and it's we all know as an artist when

2844
02:06:59,070 --> 02:06:54,360
you see something and you're immediately

2845
02:07:01,590 --> 02:06:59,080
a little bit jealous of somebody's

2846
02:07:04,380 --> 02:07:01,600
talent but you also appreciate the

2847
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:04,390
talent and you're like you know how how

2848
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:07,570
how does he or she do this where does it

2849
02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:09,610
come from yeah you know it's the

2850
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:12,520
creative side but then you have the

2851
02:07:17,460 --> 02:07:15,130
technical side and and the appreciation

2852
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:17,470
of the art and Brad if you're listening

2853
02:07:22,740 --> 02:07:19,450
you know he's just one of those guys

2854
02:07:25,380 --> 02:07:22,750
where I just went wow okay that's that's

2855
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:25,390
that's the real deal and how where does

2856
02:07:29,490 --> 02:07:27,280
this come from how did how does he pull

2857
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:29,500
this off but he is uh he's of that

2858
02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:31,890
caliber he is an extraordinary artist

2859
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:34,510
and it's good for me to be around him

2860
02:07:38,730 --> 02:07:35,980
because I you know I was in Hollywood

2861
02:07:39,660 --> 02:07:38,740
for long enough that I left with well

2862
02:07:40,980 --> 02:07:39,670
let's just say there's this kind of

2863
02:07:43,980 --> 02:07:40,990
American condition that the rest of the

2864
02:07:45,660 --> 02:07:43,990
world hates us for that was just so full

2865
02:07:47,610 --> 02:07:45,670
of ourselves and I certainly was guilty

2866
02:07:49,020 --> 02:07:47,620
of that and it's so it was really good

2867
02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:49,030
for me to be around people like Brad

2868
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:50,740
because he's so humble and you if you

2869
02:07:53,220 --> 02:07:52,090
just met him in a train station or

2870
02:07:55,020 --> 02:07:53,230
something or stood next to him in the

2871
02:07:56,850 --> 02:07:55,030
bus line you'd never know what a

2872
02:07:59,310 --> 02:07:56,860
world-class figure he is because he's

2873
02:08:01,050 --> 02:07:59,320
just he's a genuine good and humble

2874
02:08:02,430 --> 02:08:01,060
person I think that's part of being able

2875
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:02,440
to produce good art is you have this

2876
02:08:05,550 --> 02:08:04,210
honesty and you can reveal your heart

2877
02:08:07,980 --> 02:08:05,560
and it's not all horrible and full of

2878
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:07,990
worms if you're a good person it comes

2879
02:08:11,670 --> 02:08:09,550
through in your arms yeah I've got to

2880
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:11,680
get Brad on the show but I'm gonna ask

2881
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:16,090
you this question because he he was able

2882
02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:20,890
to see 3d through this Egyptian art and

2883
02:08:27,660 --> 02:08:25,270
and able to make these connections did

2884
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:27,670
you discuss this with him what was the

2885
02:08:31,620 --> 02:08:29,890
what was the moment where he just went

2886
02:08:34,530 --> 02:08:31,630
holy crap okay there's there's something

2887
02:08:36,530 --> 02:08:34,540
here found a couple precedents

2888
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:36,540
there was there are these paintings that

2889
02:08:40,700 --> 02:08:39,280
these neurologists if you look around

2890
02:08:43,110 --> 02:08:40,710
there was this thing that made a huge

2891
02:08:44,190 --> 02:08:43,120
kind of earthquake seismic ripples

2892
02:08:45,690 --> 02:08:44,200
through the art community

2893
02:08:47,580 --> 02:08:45,700
oh well through art and scientific

2894
02:08:49,500 --> 02:08:47,590
community there were there was a

2895
02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:49,510
neuroscientist he did Brad talks about

2896
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:52,030
it in the show who started noticing in

2897
02:08:56,910 --> 02:08:55,570
one of I think was a I think it's

2898
02:08:58,770 --> 02:08:56,920
Michelangelo might you know the head

2899
02:09:00,690 --> 02:08:58,780
where God reaches had his hand and then

2900
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:00,700
Adam reaches out his hand to God and

2901
02:09:04,860 --> 02:09:02,050
they almost touch but they don't quite

2902
02:09:06,270 --> 02:09:04,870
know that's the Sistine Chapel isn't it

2903
02:09:10,530 --> 02:09:06,280
was he hands on that roof or the Sistine

2904
02:09:13,770 --> 02:09:10,540
Chapel yeah right that he that this guy

2905
02:09:17,580 --> 02:09:13,780
mesh Berger who was a brain scientist

2906
02:09:19,860 --> 02:09:17,590
and also an art aficionado notice that

2907
02:09:21,870 --> 02:09:19,870
in this Delian are no painting that God

2908
02:09:23,550 --> 02:09:21,880
and this display of this kind of cluster

2909
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:23,560
of angels and they're all over this

2910
02:09:32,190 --> 02:09:29,460
kidney shaped red background and the the

2911
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:32,200
fabric that it's on has these really

2912
02:09:36,390 --> 02:09:34,450
characteristic wrinkles and folds in it

2913
02:09:38,340 --> 02:09:36,400
and there's little angels and Sophia the

2914
02:09:40,620 --> 02:09:38,350
personage of Sophia coming you know is

2915
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:40,630
in the arm of God and then God has

2916
02:09:45,300 --> 02:09:42,370
stretched across this thing and where

2917
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:45,310
God's Wang is where the regenerative

2918
02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:47,110
area probably the hell for saying gods

2919
02:09:59,910 --> 02:09:54,310
wing where God's wing is yes we know

2920
02:10:01,470 --> 02:09:59,920
what you're talking about a chance so

2921
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:01,480
Brad first started noticing that and

2922
02:10:05,580 --> 02:10:04,210
started noticing and in da Vinci and and

2923
02:10:08,130 --> 02:10:05,590
all the people who were rumored to be

2924
02:10:09,900 --> 02:10:08,140
part of the secret society they all seem

2925
02:10:13,140 --> 02:10:09,910
to be paying homage to the fact that the

2926
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:13,150
ancients somehow knew exactly the

2927
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:16,000
architecture of the brain so it wasn't

2928
02:10:18,630 --> 02:10:17,530
even a starting point I think that was

2929
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:18,640
something that he found to validate

2930
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:20,170
himself after he started making these

2931
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:22,450
discoveries but as I was mentioning he

2932
02:10:26,910 --> 02:10:25,090
found venus de milo and not venus de

2933
02:10:29,370 --> 02:10:26,920
milo the Venus of Willendorf which is

2934
02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:29,380
this thing that is lives by orthodox

2935
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:30,790
people there are people who say this is

2936
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:32,440
about sixty thousand years old this

2937
02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:34,480
sculpture and the traditional story

2938
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:37,750
about it was that it's just this toda

2939
02:10:41,580 --> 02:10:40,210
mystic thing and maybe you know early

2940
02:10:43,110 --> 02:10:41,590
pornography because it's just a kind of

2941
02:10:44,910 --> 02:10:43,120
it looks like a fat woman with two giant

2942
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:44,920
breasts except she doesn't have a face

2943
02:10:48,910 --> 02:10:46,010
in her head is

2944
02:10:49,540 --> 02:10:48,920
big knob with a bunch of kind of nipples

2945
02:10:53,950 --> 02:10:49,550
all over it

2946
02:10:56,169 --> 02:10:53,960
and art history majors will trace the

2947
02:10:58,390 --> 02:10:56,179
evolution of statuary from the Venus of

2948
02:11:00,279 --> 02:10:58,400
Willendorf which is very crude thing all

2949
02:11:05,890 --> 02:11:00,289
the way through to these statues of

2950
02:11:09,279 --> 02:11:05,900
Diana Ishtar and there's another star

2951
02:11:11,109 --> 02:11:09,289
and I think that sculpture like one of

2952
02:11:11,799 --> 02:11:11,119
the like the original one that you're

2953
02:11:13,620 --> 02:11:11,809
talking about

2954
02:11:17,919 --> 02:11:13,630
I think that's he had a Pope's office

2955
02:11:20,350 --> 02:11:17,929
Wow in the British Museum there's a big

2956
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:20,360
giant wall where she's standing there so

2957
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:22,010
what you'll see in all these statues is

2958
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:24,650
that her torso their torsos are very

2959
02:11:29,410 --> 02:11:27,199
pronounced and from about the waist up

2960
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:29,420
covered in these weird nipples and so in

2961
02:11:33,399 --> 02:11:31,610
one case but the way they hold their

2962
02:11:35,620 --> 02:11:33,409
hands up they do this weird kind of

2963
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:35,630
Ronnie James do you know that trying to

2964
02:11:39,490 --> 02:11:37,010
give you a rock concert to hold your

2965
02:11:41,620 --> 02:11:39,500
hands up and make the devil sign ya know

2966
02:11:42,879 --> 02:11:41,630
the girls the the women in these statues

2967
02:11:45,700 --> 02:11:42,889
are all holding their arms up it's sort

2968
02:11:48,430 --> 02:11:45,710
of an uncomfortable angle in a position

2969
02:11:50,049 --> 02:11:48,440
and what Brad noticed the stock-in-trade

2970
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:50,059
in an artist by the way is their right

2971
02:11:54,669 --> 02:11:52,010
hemisphere and the right hemisphere is

2972
02:11:56,529 --> 02:11:54,679
involved in matching things like I

2973
02:11:59,410 --> 02:11:56,539
noticed this shape is the same shape as

2974
02:12:01,149 --> 02:11:59,420
this or I noticed that this cluster of

2975
02:12:03,399 --> 02:12:01,159
symbols is the same from this unrelated

2976
02:12:05,379 --> 02:12:03,409
thing artists really are good at

2977
02:12:06,729 --> 02:12:05,389
recognizing similarities and patterns

2978
02:12:09,700 --> 02:12:06,739
because that's like that's the muscle we

2979
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:09,710
work all day and so Brad started

2980
02:12:15,700 --> 02:12:12,880
noticing that in these famous statues

2981
02:12:17,290 --> 02:12:15,710
they literally they depict the brainstem

2982
02:12:18,700 --> 02:12:17,300
and the way that they stand and the way

2983
02:12:21,370 --> 02:12:18,710
that their hands are if you look at a

2984
02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:21,380
human brain stem next to this statue it

2985
02:12:24,759 --> 02:12:23,210
is it's another one of those moments

2986
02:12:26,500 --> 02:12:24,769
where you just he can't even argue with

2987
02:12:28,180 --> 02:12:26,510
it and it explains all these things that

2988
02:12:29,979 --> 02:12:28,190
our historians never understood like

2989
02:12:31,569 --> 02:12:29,989
didn't the ancients know how many

2990
02:12:33,069 --> 02:12:31,579
nipples a woman had or didn't they know

2991
02:12:36,339 --> 02:12:33,079
that this wasn't correct or they don't

2992
02:12:38,259 --> 02:12:36,349
have giant shoulders like this and what

2993
02:12:39,549 --> 02:12:38,269
he shows is those statues that have

2994
02:12:41,979 --> 02:12:39,559
really big shoulders and overdeveloped

2995
02:12:45,060 --> 02:12:41,989
hips it's the brainstem and the thalamus

2996
02:12:47,979 --> 02:12:45,070
at the top these two big heavy lobes

2997
02:12:50,529 --> 02:12:47,989
if you look at the show or watch Brad's

2998
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:50,539
presentation you'll see these visuals

2999
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:53,599
where this is a perfect representation

3000
02:12:57,879 --> 02:12:56,239
of not just an important brain

3001
02:12:59,669 --> 02:12:57,889
architecture but the part of the brain

3002
02:13:01,589 --> 02:12:59,679
architecture that's responsible for

3003
02:13:03,359 --> 02:13:01,599
justice and the only way that we can

3004
02:13:06,739 --> 02:13:03,369
have these visionary or religious or

3005
02:13:10,399 --> 02:13:06,749
spiritual experiences is because of this

3006
02:13:14,009 --> 02:13:10,409
or part of the brain the hip

3007
02:13:15,870 --> 02:13:14,019
diencephalon and the brain stem which is

3008
02:13:18,779 --> 02:13:15,880
the lizard brain or the art complex and

3009
02:13:21,540 --> 02:13:18,789
that seems to be where these really

3010
02:13:25,729 --> 02:13:21,550
powerful spiritual experiences the whole

3011
02:13:28,379 --> 02:13:25,739
Kundalini mechanism take place and so

3012
02:13:30,899 --> 02:13:28,389
one of the premises in magical Egypt was

3013
02:13:32,850 --> 02:13:30,909
this idea of didactic art that art in

3014
02:13:34,469 --> 02:13:32,860
the past isn't used the way we use it

3015
02:13:37,709 --> 02:13:34,479
art in the past was didactic or

3016
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:37,719
educational and so it again raises the

3017
02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:40,239
question who was knew this and who was

3018
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:42,249
trying to teach this to who but in the

3019
02:13:46,020 --> 02:13:43,360
statuary that Brad found not only

3020
02:13:48,660 --> 02:13:46,030
defined that all of these will the brain

3021
02:13:50,339 --> 02:13:48,670
stem in particular and this very

3022
02:13:52,410 --> 02:13:50,349
important thing at the top of the brain

3023
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:52,420
still called the diencephalon where the

3024
02:13:55,529 --> 02:13:54,130
pineal gland the pituitary and the

3025
02:13:57,719 --> 02:13:55,539
thalamus is that's where the third eye

3026
02:13:58,919 --> 02:13:57,729
is that all the cultures revere and you

3027
02:14:00,899 --> 02:13:58,929
know the reason that hindus where that

3028
02:14:02,370 --> 02:14:00,909
bindi point on their forehead to

3029
02:14:04,169 --> 02:14:02,380
celebrate the fact that this is the

3030
02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:04,179
center of consciousness and this is

3031
02:14:08,129 --> 02:14:05,920
where our spirituality comes from and so

3032
02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:08,139
it's another one of those examples of

3033
02:14:13,259 --> 02:14:11,170
where in the modern day we'll see a work

3034
02:14:15,540 --> 02:14:13,269
of art and we don't we think art is to

3035
02:14:17,009 --> 02:14:15,550
you know cover up space on the motel

3036
02:14:19,049 --> 02:14:17,019
room when you're Houghton and Howard

3037
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:19,059
Johnsons or you know I need something to

3038
02:14:22,949 --> 02:14:20,650
put on my mantelpiece that makes it not

3039
02:14:25,020 --> 02:14:22,959
seem so empty and for us art serves a

3040
02:14:27,870 --> 02:14:25,030
fundamentally different function but in

3041
02:14:31,199 --> 02:14:27,880
the past art was used to uplift humanity

3042
02:14:33,870 --> 02:14:31,209
and apparently they knew not only the

3043
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:33,880
articulations of the stem but there's a

3044
02:14:39,449 --> 02:14:36,610
famous papyrus it's called the Smith

3045
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:39,459
papyrus Edwin Smith I believe and it is

3046
02:14:44,279 --> 02:14:42,639
this papyrus that shows areas of the

3047
02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:44,289
brain and what they're responsible for

3048
02:14:47,850 --> 02:14:45,610
so it's another thing that Egyptology

3049
02:14:50,189 --> 02:14:47,860
absolutely denies that in fact a lot of

3050
02:14:52,410 --> 02:14:50,199
people think say even very progressive

3051
02:14:54,750 --> 02:14:52,420
people insist that the Egyptians didn't

3052
02:14:56,399 --> 02:14:54,760
know what the brain was for and here we

3053
02:14:58,169 --> 02:14:56,409
have not only always schematics of the

3054
02:15:00,000 --> 02:14:58,179
brain my discovery of the pylon that

3055
02:15:02,009 --> 02:15:00,010
shows you you know it maps out exactly

3056
02:15:04,439 --> 02:15:02,019
the articulations of the brain right but

3057
02:15:05,790 --> 02:15:04,449
that this Edwin Smith papyrus from you

3058
02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:05,800
know is it's famous and everyone knows

3059
02:15:09,479 --> 02:15:07,599
about it it specifically says if someone

3060
02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:09,489
can't move their right leg it's this

3061
02:15:12,009 --> 02:15:11,170
part of the brain if you know your

3062
02:15:15,399 --> 02:15:12,019
sinuses are

3063
02:15:17,680 --> 02:15:15,409
and so it's easily provable that they

3064
02:15:19,450 --> 02:15:17,690
absolutely understood the brain at least

3065
02:15:21,009 --> 02:15:19,460
as well as we do and there's that whole

3066
02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:21,019
important thing that modern science this

3067
02:15:25,239 --> 02:15:23,570
day cannot tell you what consciousness

3068
02:15:26,830 --> 02:15:25,249
is but where consciousness comes from

3069
02:15:28,330 --> 02:15:26,840
you don't know what the pineal glands

3070
02:15:29,890 --> 02:15:28,340
for they know it's involved in certain

3071
02:15:31,209 --> 02:15:29,900
things Rick Strassman is actually the

3072
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:31,219
one that's made more progress than just

3073
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:33,650
about anybody I know but you see in

3074
02:15:37,979 --> 02:15:35,119
Statuary that the statuary is

3075
02:15:41,500 --> 02:15:37,989
communicating this highly technical

3076
02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:41,510
scientific information in this way that

3077
02:15:49,060 --> 02:15:44,210
is beautiful I mean just absolutely

3078
02:15:50,620 --> 02:15:49,070
beautiful the the creation of Adam you

3079
02:15:55,330 --> 02:15:50,630
know on the ceiling of the Sistine

3080
02:15:58,569 --> 02:15:55,340
Chapel I remember Brad again you know I

3081
02:16:01,330 --> 02:15:58,579
I hold him guilty for this because now I

3082
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:01,340
see the brain and the outline and the

3083
02:16:06,370 --> 02:16:04,159
brain and the brainstem all over the

3084
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:06,380
place it is something that you can't

3085
02:16:11,379 --> 02:16:08,480
escape and it's certainly something that

3086
02:16:14,859 --> 02:16:11,389
the Egyptians were not only cognizant of

3087
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:14,869
but clearly wanted to represent and show

3088
02:16:20,919 --> 02:16:18,650
us what was going on but where God is in

3089
02:16:22,750 --> 02:16:20,929
the Sistine Chapel with with Adam you

3090
02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:22,760
know they're holding out there almost

3091
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:27,050
touching their fingers in the middle of

3092
02:16:31,569 --> 02:16:29,690
a brain that's exactly what's going on

3093
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:31,579
there most people are gonna see like you

3094
02:16:39,780 --> 02:16:36,880
mentioned a material or draping material

3095
02:16:44,889 --> 02:16:39,790
or velvet or whatever it is but it's

3096
02:16:47,019 --> 02:16:44,899
yeah but it's not it's the brain and so

3097
02:16:48,730 --> 02:16:47,029
where God is where his hand is

3098
02:16:50,650 --> 02:16:48,740
I for a while when I was making the show

3099
02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:50,660
I knew all these terms for all the parts

3100
02:16:54,940 --> 02:16:53,569
of the brain but um where the woman

3101
02:16:56,679 --> 02:16:54,950
comes out there's a baby and there's a

3102
02:16:58,209 --> 02:16:56,689
woman the woman is Sophia and Sophia is

3103
02:16:59,620 --> 02:16:58,219
the embodiment of wisdom that's where

3104
02:17:03,490 --> 02:16:59,630
that word philosophy comes from it means

3105
02:17:04,780 --> 02:17:03,500
the love of Sophia she comes she

3106
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:04,790
basically if you take a brain and

3107
02:17:09,309 --> 02:17:07,040
overlay that over that painting she is

3108
02:17:11,950 --> 02:17:09,319
where the thalamus is there's a baby

3109
02:17:13,599 --> 02:17:11,960
that has this weird it's kind of a weird

3110
02:17:15,459 --> 02:17:13,609
posture and it's next to this wrinkle

3111
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:15,469
yes where the occipital lobe is in the

3112
02:17:19,570 --> 02:17:16,880
brain the occipital lobe is kind of this

3113
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:19,580
weird spongy bit that's different that's

3114
02:17:23,220 --> 02:17:21,280
separated from the brain

3115
02:17:24,930 --> 02:17:23,230
indicated the thalamus the pineal the

3116
02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:24,940
pituitary er indicated in the major

3117
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:27,730
vessels the third and fourth ventricle

3118
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:29,770
are extremely important both in the

3119
02:17:33,960 --> 02:17:31,570
hallucinogenic process in the Kundalini

3120
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:33,970
process and hypnagogic state and

3121
02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:35,290
dreaming and whatnot so that's all

3122
02:17:38,790 --> 02:17:37,120
depicted there but that's actually a

3123
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:38,800
fairly modern

3124
02:17:49,050 --> 02:17:44,610
found there was another painting the oh

3125
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:49,060
the something of Christ where Christ is

3126
02:17:54,390 --> 02:17:51,760
standing on a hill and he's upright and

3127
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:54,400
there's a cloud over him and oddly

3128
02:17:58,680 --> 02:17:55,930
enough it's the cloud that terry gilliam

3129
02:18:00,240 --> 02:17:58,690
used when God talks the body Python

3130
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:00,250
right to that cloud it's a cloud from

3131
02:18:06,750 --> 02:18:01,690
that painting right and so this thing

3132
02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:06,760
has kind of a how do I explain it when

3133
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:08,080
you just when you step back and look at

3134
02:18:12,660 --> 02:18:10,570
this painting or what we did is when you

3135
02:18:14,370 --> 02:18:12,670
take actual drawings of the brain and

3136
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:14,380
spinal column and you put it over this

3137
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:19,330
painting the clouds form the two

3138
02:18:25,890 --> 02:18:22,240
hemispheres the Jesus figure in the

3139
02:18:28,020 --> 02:18:25,900
middle is the brainstem God Himself is

3140
02:18:30,270 --> 02:18:28,030
positioned at the place of the third eye

3141
02:18:31,500 --> 02:18:30,280
and these clouds so Brad saw that and it

3142
02:18:32,910 --> 02:18:31,510
was another one of those like he'd said

3143
02:18:34,680 --> 02:18:32,920
once you see it you see it everywhere

3144
02:18:36,660 --> 02:18:34,690
once you understand the key and then all

3145
02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:36,670
kinds of things speak to you but what he

3146
02:18:39,450 --> 02:18:38,140
discovered that it would never occurred

3147
02:18:41,070 --> 02:18:39,460
to me and this is where it ties in to

3148
02:18:43,860 --> 02:18:41,080
ancient Egypt there's a very

3149
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:43,870
characteristic like iconic statue Ram

3150
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:45,490
statue if you anybody who's ever been to

3151
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:47,650
Karnak in Egypt you visit the temple by

3152
02:18:52,950 --> 02:18:49,810
going through this hall of these very

3153
02:18:55,470 --> 02:18:52,960
beautiful rams and the Rams their chin

3154
02:18:56,850 --> 02:18:55,480
rests on this little man who's standing

3155
02:18:58,740 --> 02:18:56,860
there and he has kind of a pronounced

3156
02:19:01,380 --> 02:18:58,750
torso and his legs come together and

3157
02:19:03,390 --> 02:19:01,390
he's under the chin of the RAM so if you

3158
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:03,400
look at this Ram from the front Rams

3159
02:19:08,310 --> 02:19:05,770
have that interesting winos like dogs

3160
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:08,320
and moose and and seals and stuff have

3161
02:19:13,590 --> 02:19:11,650
this nose it's kind of a why and and

3162
02:19:15,690 --> 02:19:13,600
then the ram's horns come out to the

3163
02:19:18,210 --> 02:19:15,700
side and they curve so when you take

3164
02:19:19,860 --> 02:19:18,220
that ram head and superimpose it on the

3165
02:19:22,020 --> 02:19:19,870
statue or you superimpose it on the

3166
02:19:24,780 --> 02:19:22,030
brain it is another one of those things

3167
02:19:25,590 --> 02:19:24,790
that this art represents the RAM when

3168
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:25,600
you look at it but when you actually

3169
02:19:29,460 --> 02:19:27,130
look at the outline of it it is the

3170
02:19:32,460 --> 02:19:29,470
perfect outline of the hemispheres and

3171
02:19:34,700 --> 02:19:32,470
the RAM and the RAM snout is the corpus

3172
02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:34,710
callosum and then this little man stand

3173
02:19:38,299 --> 02:19:36,090
under the chin of the round that the

3174
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:38,309
Rams chin is resting on is another

3175
02:19:45,370 --> 02:19:41,760
brainstem like the Ishtar and Diana

3176
02:19:47,690 --> 02:19:45,380
statues and so even in Egypt way before

3177
02:19:49,790 --> 02:19:47,700
you know whatever period produced of

3178
02:19:51,740 --> 02:19:49,800
Ishtar well contemporary with Ishtar

3179
02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:51,750
actually because I was from Sumeria to

3180
02:19:54,770 --> 02:19:52,410
Babylonia

3181
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:54,780
that this thing is a perfect

3182
02:20:00,590 --> 02:19:58,560
reproduction of the brainstem and to the

3183
02:20:02,570 --> 02:20:00,600
point where on the little man under the

3184
02:20:04,340 --> 02:20:02,580
RAM the uraeus that comes out of his

3185
02:20:06,740 --> 02:20:04,350
head is exactly where the infundibulum

3186
02:20:08,960 --> 02:20:06,750
is and if you look at every feature on

3187
02:20:10,430 --> 02:20:08,970
this sculpture it exactly corresponds to

3188
02:20:15,140 --> 02:20:10,440
some significant part of the brainstem

3189
02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:15,150
and so this is I'm sure at least a

3190
02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:17,370
decade of research on Brad's part

3191
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:20,160
showing that not only was their

3192
02:20:24,170 --> 02:20:21,770
understanding of the brain really

3193
02:20:26,060 --> 02:20:24,180
complete and in some cases more advanced

3194
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:26,070
than our own but the thing that

3195
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,840
impresses me so much and that really

3196
02:20:32,600 --> 02:20:30,000
appeals to all artists is that they

3197
02:20:34,730 --> 02:20:32,610
managed to present this technical

3198
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:34,740
schematic in a way that was so beautiful

3199
02:20:37,750 --> 02:20:36,330
it was so beautiful and it works on its

3200
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:37,760
own as a work of art that nobody even

3201
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:39,810
considered the possibility that this

3202
02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:41,280
thing was actually expressing this

3203
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:43,650
really important scientific principle so

3204
02:20:48,770 --> 02:20:45,840
where do we go in the next so he's we're

3205
02:20:51,350 --> 02:20:48,780
actually culminating the series too with

3206
02:20:54,170 --> 02:20:51,360
the where Brad's work leads to which is

3207
02:20:56,300 --> 02:20:54,180
it's basically this thing that alerts

3208
02:20:58,610 --> 02:20:56,310
you to what we know of as the third eye

3209
02:21:01,520 --> 02:20:58,620
and this imperative that every human has

3210
02:21:04,070 --> 02:21:01,530
to stop being externally focused all the

3211
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,080
time and to start doing this very simple

3212
02:21:08,480 --> 02:21:06,479
series of meditations and activities and

3213
02:21:09,980 --> 02:21:08,490
and as you've done recently you got to

3214
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:09,990
start paying attention to the vehicle

3215
02:21:13,219 --> 02:21:11,370
and you can't have a bunch of crap you

3216
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:13,229
don't put molasses in your car you know

3217
02:21:17,210 --> 02:21:15,810
if you want to drink drink all you want

3218
02:21:19,070 --> 02:21:17,220
but if you want to have a spiritual

3219
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:19,080
experience you're pining blend doesn't

3220
02:21:23,930 --> 02:21:21,210
work when you're drinking alcohol so all

3221
02:21:25,580 --> 02:21:23,940
of these things that seem like just

3222
02:21:28,310 --> 02:21:25,590
boring they're actually necessary steps

3223
02:21:30,410 --> 02:21:28,320
and creating the alchemical ethanol or

3224
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:30,420
you know the chemical test tube is your

3225
02:21:34,370 --> 02:21:32,130
body you are the alchemical test tube

3226
02:21:36,740 --> 02:21:34,380
and the reason why that's so important

3227
02:21:38,420 --> 02:21:36,750
is that your body has to your body can

3228
02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:38,430
either detract from your brain or add to

3229
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:39,840
your brain depending on how healthy you

3230
02:21:44,690 --> 02:21:41,610
are and how clean your bloodstream is

3231
02:21:48,110 --> 02:21:44,700
and also on that other weird issue that

3232
02:21:49,670 --> 02:21:48,120
instead of expending your sexuality you

3233
02:21:51,950 --> 02:21:49,680
that metaphor of manna from heaven you

3234
02:21:54,620 --> 02:21:51,960
get this certain allowance every day of

3235
02:21:57,170 --> 02:21:54,630
this life force and if you don't expend

3236
02:21:58,730 --> 02:21:57,180
it to make children or whatever it stays

3237
02:22:02,360 --> 02:21:58,740
in you and it has a secondary purpose

3238
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:02,370
where it starts it catalyzes this change

3239
02:22:07,761 --> 02:22:05,610
in your bloodstream that supercharges

3240
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:07,771
your brain and your pint your gland and

3241
02:22:11,091 --> 02:22:10,170
these spiritual things so the message of

3242
02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:11,101
ancient Egypt

3243
02:22:15,551 --> 02:22:12,690
Brad was one of the first people to make

3244
02:22:18,591 --> 02:22:15,561
it so explicit that in these sculptures

3245
02:22:21,290 --> 02:22:18,601
specifically point to the parts of your

3246
02:22:24,410 --> 02:22:21,300
brain that are changeable and all of

3247
02:22:26,030 --> 02:22:24,420
those mythical properties of

3248
02:22:29,051 --> 02:22:26,040
consciousness that seemed like you know

3249
02:22:31,370 --> 02:22:29,061
supernatural stories like empathy and

3250
02:22:32,990 --> 02:22:31,380
the ability to read people's minds or

3251
02:22:36,980 --> 02:22:33,000
the ability to by locator just that

3252
02:22:38,810 --> 02:22:36,990
simple very understandable goal of

3253
02:22:42,801 --> 02:22:38,820
regeneration so you live to be you know

3254
02:22:45,350 --> 02:22:42,811
crazy Ages all of these Sciences are

3255
02:22:47,810 --> 02:22:45,360
contained in just understanding the yoga

3256
02:22:49,490 --> 02:22:47,820
of building up this magnetic field or

3257
02:22:52,551 --> 02:22:49,500
amplifying light as the Freemason say

3258
02:22:55,100 --> 02:22:52,561
it's all about this in their light so

3259
02:22:58,100 --> 02:22:55,110
you know the halos that were around holy

3260
02:22:59,360 --> 02:22:58,110
figures in old art and the Indians you

3261
02:23:01,820 --> 02:22:59,370
know they wear that headdress that fans

3262
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:01,830
out from their head right the Japanese

3263
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:04,080
Rising Sun flag all of these things to

3264
02:23:10,610 --> 02:23:06,690
show emanating light are all symbolic of

3265
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:10,620
this this process whereby you can they

3266
02:23:15,470 --> 02:23:12,210
call it opening your third eye and it

3267
02:23:17,060 --> 02:23:15,480
has a much more scientific it's based in

3268
02:23:19,190 --> 02:23:17,070
science it's not just a crazy New Age

3269
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:19,200
stuff but that is really the point of

3270
02:23:22,940 --> 02:23:21,090
yoga the really ancient yoga the

3271
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:22,950
pedantic yoga and the pedantic sciences

3272
02:23:27,980 --> 02:23:25,410
it's not just to get your body clean and

3273
02:23:30,051 --> 02:23:27,990
operational but then further to do the

3274
02:23:31,250 --> 02:23:30,061
same thing to these brain centers that

3275
02:23:32,600 --> 02:23:31,260
we have control over just like you can

3276
02:23:34,880 --> 02:23:32,610
build up your pecks or you can lose

3277
02:23:36,650 --> 02:23:34,890
weight you know you can build up these

3278
02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:36,660
brain centers by doing these traditional

3279
02:23:42,890 --> 02:23:38,640
exercises and Egypt tells you how to do

3280
02:23:46,460 --> 02:23:42,900
them and did you know frogs did you know

3281
02:23:49,190 --> 02:23:46,470
that frogs have third eyes really

3282
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:49,200
vestigial I know birds do to know that

3283
02:23:55,871 --> 02:23:53,040
you're a bunch of reptiles I did it I I

3284
02:24:01,081 --> 02:23:55,881
did the list a couple of weeks ago on

3285
02:24:04,451 --> 02:24:01,091
show but but functioning third eyes Wow

3286
02:24:06,390 --> 02:24:04,461
absolutely absolutely wanted me to ask

3287
02:24:09,371 --> 02:24:06,400
you about the platypus

3288
02:24:11,111 --> 02:24:09,381
what what about it I don't know I don't

3289
02:24:13,631 --> 02:24:11,121
know but now they're showing videos I

3290
02:24:19,571 --> 02:24:13,641
think it was more about God's humor and

3291
02:24:22,211 --> 02:24:19,581
maybe Oh hilarious Carlin joke now I

3292
02:24:23,831 --> 02:24:22,221
made the connection that's the platypus

3293
02:24:25,781 --> 02:24:23,841
is an example of God sense of humor

3294
02:24:29,951 --> 02:24:25,791
that's hilarious they're showing videos

3295
02:24:34,601 --> 02:24:29,961
on Twitter right now but yeah the whole

3296
02:24:37,031 --> 02:24:34,611
list of of reptiles and animals with

3297
02:24:40,301 --> 02:24:37,041
third eyes a functioning like you know

3298
02:24:42,461 --> 02:24:40,311
and and we had it we just let it go I

3299
02:24:45,271 --> 02:24:42,471
wanted to ask you before we head to the

3300
02:24:49,541 --> 02:24:45,281
break there is so much talk about the

3301
02:24:52,001 --> 02:24:49,551
calcification and the degradation of the

3302
02:24:57,011 --> 02:24:52,011
pineal gland and what do you think

3303
02:25:01,571 --> 02:24:57,021
actually caused it in that I mean we we

3304
02:25:03,251 --> 02:25:01,581
we obviously used it it's there and and

3305
02:25:05,351 --> 02:25:03,261
there's you know there's so much talk

3306
02:25:07,720 --> 02:25:05,361
about you know getting it back going and

3307
02:25:11,201 --> 02:25:07,730
and what we can do about but but what

3308
02:25:12,970 --> 02:25:11,211
what caused it I have a know the answer

3309
02:25:14,501 --> 02:25:12,980
this there's actually two things I'm one

3310
02:25:17,861 --> 02:25:14,511
of them surprisingly came from Rick

3311
02:25:19,481 --> 02:25:17,871
Strassman when Thomas Edison did us the

3312
02:25:22,601 --> 02:25:19,491
incredible favor of creating artificial

3313
02:25:26,801 --> 02:25:22,611
light humanity before lights and even

3314
02:25:29,051 --> 02:25:26,811
before fire your the amount of time you

3315
02:25:31,930 --> 02:25:29,061
spend around a light source has a huge

3316
02:25:36,640 --> 02:25:31,940
effect on your pineal gland and so when

3317
02:25:38,861 --> 02:25:36,650
we went from caves to candles just an

3318
02:25:41,231 --> 02:25:38,871
artificial light of any kind starts

3319
02:25:42,461 --> 02:25:41,241
making stay up later but exposure to

3320
02:25:44,651 --> 02:25:42,471
light has this effect on your pineal

3321
02:25:46,361 --> 02:25:44,661
gland the more light year around the

3322
02:25:48,071 --> 02:25:46,371
smaller your pineal gland is for some

3323
02:25:50,291 --> 02:25:48,081
reason and it's an interesting side

3324
02:25:52,871 --> 02:25:50,301
story that this guy mantequilla that's a

3325
02:25:54,581 --> 02:25:52,881
kind of tantric energy worker and the

3326
02:25:55,871 --> 02:25:54,591
Egyptian mystery schools if you're an

3327
02:25:58,091 --> 02:25:55,881
initiate in the Egyptian mystery schools

3328
02:26:00,371 --> 02:25:58,101
there's a very necessary thing you had

3329
02:26:02,711 --> 02:26:00,381
to spend five years underground to end

3330
02:26:04,841 --> 02:26:02,721
of the dark which just seems weird and

3331
02:26:09,041 --> 02:26:04,851
punitive until you realize that

3332
02:26:09,610 --> 02:26:09,051
mantequilla you know lots of other

3333
02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:09,620
people but

3334
02:26:14,830 --> 02:26:12,290
now Rick Strassman just said this thing

3335
02:26:16,210 --> 02:26:14,840
same thing again as soon as humans

3336
02:26:17,679 --> 02:26:16,220
started hanging around these

3337
02:26:19,750 --> 02:26:17,689
environments where there's perpetual

3338
02:26:21,550 --> 02:26:19,760
24-hour light and then artificial light

3339
02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:21,560
which is much brighter our Pineville

3340
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:23,330
gland has been shrinking since the

3341
02:26:26,679 --> 02:26:24,770
invention of the light bulb and it's

3342
02:26:29,110 --> 02:26:26,689
been shrinking since our use of fire but

3343
02:26:30,820 --> 02:26:29,120
the light bulb but hugely accelerated it

3344
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:30,830
and then the other one is almost a

3345
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:33,770
tropism fluoride fluoride in the water

3346
02:26:38,740 --> 02:26:35,840
absolutely calcifies your party line and

3347
02:26:40,750 --> 02:26:38,750
shuts down your radio you know alcohol

3348
02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:40,760
if you ever want to stop being psychic

3349
02:26:46,870 --> 02:26:44,240
instantly take shot of alcohol really oh

3350
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:46,880
man instantly don't ever die when you're

3351
02:26:56,770 --> 02:26:52,370
drunk by the way that's interesting

3352
02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:56,780
because we've all heard you know your

3353
02:27:01,210 --> 02:26:58,880
your life flashes you know you have this

3354
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:01,220
adrenaline rush the Pam dramatic life

3355
02:27:09,849 --> 02:27:06,250
with you right and that adrenaline rush

3356
02:27:14,160 --> 02:27:09,859
which is normally attributed to all of

3357
02:27:17,410 --> 02:27:14,170
this is probably the massive dose of DMT

3358
02:27:19,570 --> 02:27:17,420
being spit out by the pineal gland from

3359
02:27:21,790 --> 02:27:19,580
that adrenaline rush and that's the life

3360
02:27:24,969 --> 02:27:21,800
review that you get it's from DMT not

3361
02:27:27,340 --> 02:27:24,979
from adrenaline and so how cruel if it

3362
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:27,350
was done on purpose and how it was done

3363
02:27:31,810 --> 02:27:30,170
accidentally that every day we owe and

3364
02:27:33,639 --> 02:27:31,820
refined sugar to every day that we're

3365
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:33,649
consuming this chemical in our water

3366
02:27:37,090 --> 02:27:35,120
this is a whole other conversation and

3367
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,100
it sounds like a conspiracy theory so a

3368
02:27:40,750 --> 02:27:39,439
lot of people can I was surprised at

3369
02:27:42,340 --> 02:27:40,760
Rick Strassman didn't know about piney

3370
02:27:44,530 --> 02:27:42,350
lye just before he went on the thing I

3371
02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:44,540
showed him there's much of youtube's by

3372
02:27:50,260 --> 02:27:47,470
really credentialed doctors it's not in

3373
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:50,270
contest it's not contested that fluoride

3374
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:52,880
in the water so if you're drinking city

3375
02:27:57,849 --> 02:27:56,479
water do yourself a favor and start you

3376
02:27:59,560 --> 02:27:57,859
know buying bottled water in a glass

3377
02:28:01,360 --> 02:27:59,570
because there are some things that

3378
02:28:03,219 --> 02:28:01,370
actually effect it's like being

3379
02:28:04,929 --> 02:28:03,229
castrated on a spiritual level

3380
02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:04,939
the calcification of the pineal gland

3381
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,600
the pineal gland at puberty

3382
02:28:12,370 --> 02:28:10,160
substantially reduces and then when your

3383
02:28:13,960 --> 02:28:12,380
sexual time is over it comes back on so

3384
02:28:16,179 --> 02:28:13,970
old people there pine needle and comes

3385
02:28:17,860 --> 02:28:16,189
back the reason kids are so psychic you

3386
02:28:19,210 --> 02:28:17,870
know kids are reading the minds of their

3387
02:28:21,250 --> 02:28:19,220
parents almost perpetually it's just

3388
02:28:22,961 --> 02:28:21,260
part of biology and their pipeline is

3389
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:22,971
huge and you know like

3390
02:28:25,961 --> 02:28:24,650
it's good and operational when you're

3391
02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:25,971
young and then for some reason to

3392
02:28:28,780 --> 02:28:27,530
puberty whether you're around light

3393
02:28:30,250 --> 02:28:28,790
whether you've ever had sugar whether

3394
02:28:32,980 --> 02:28:30,260
you've ever had fluoride your pineal

3395
02:28:36,461 --> 02:28:32,990
gland just gets smaller but this the

3396
02:28:38,350 --> 02:28:36,471
point of this work is to build it up

3397
02:28:40,660 --> 02:28:38,360
like a muscle and there's combinations

3398
02:28:43,660 --> 02:28:40,670
of meditation practices and and other

3399
02:28:46,180 --> 02:28:43,670
stuff retention exercises that are

3400
02:28:47,830 --> 02:28:46,190
literally is the thing that you do it's

3401
02:28:50,500 --> 02:28:47,840
a yoga specifically for your pineal

3402
02:28:53,890 --> 02:28:50,510
gland that'll bring it back online and

3403
02:28:55,421 --> 02:28:53,900
if you oh at this point let me just

3404
02:28:56,711 --> 02:28:55,431
interject something another really

3405
02:28:57,881 --> 02:28:56,721
important part of magical Egypt is the

3406
02:29:00,310 --> 02:28:57,891
difference between these two words

3407
02:29:02,230 --> 02:29:00,320
operative and speculative a lot of

3408
02:29:03,761 --> 02:29:02,240
Egyptology just like masonry has those

3409
02:29:05,020 --> 02:29:03,771
two terms speculative means you talk

3410
02:29:06,761 --> 02:29:05,030
about something and you study it

3411
02:29:08,711 --> 02:29:06,771
operative means you do it

3412
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:08,721
okay so right I'm gonna stop you right

3413
02:29:12,040 --> 02:29:10,130
there we're gonna take a break we're

3414
02:29:14,171 --> 02:29:12,050
gonna go into overtime because this is

3415
02:29:16,570 --> 02:29:14,181
too important we got to go right there

3416
02:29:19,360 --> 02:29:16,580
okay so now I know you're busy

3417
02:29:20,770 --> 02:29:19,370
you've got the symposium but I've got to

3418
02:29:22,660 --> 02:29:20,780
keep you for a few more minutes so we're

3419
02:29:26,500 --> 02:29:22,670
gonna do that chance don't go anywhere

3420
02:29:28,301 --> 02:29:26,510
magical Egypt chance Gardner the magical

3421
02:29:30,341 --> 02:29:28,311
Egypt symposium everything is right

3422
02:29:32,410 --> 02:29:30,351
there at magical Egypt com of course we

3423
02:29:35,381 --> 02:29:32,420
have it up in Twitter and over at Jimmy

3424
02:29:37,301 --> 02:29:35,391
Church radio calm we will continue where

3425
02:29:37,780 --> 02:29:37,311
we are leaving off right after this

3426
02:29:38,930 --> 02:29:37,790
short break

3427
02:29:57,800 --> 02:29:38,940
stay with us

3428
02:30:00,989 --> 02:29:57,810
[Music]

3429
02:30:05,450 --> 02:30:00,999
and you are listening to my boy Jimmy

3430
02:30:09,149 --> 02:30:05,460
Church on Jimmy Church radio calm

3431
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:09,159
despite popular opinion reading a book

3432
02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:19,090
will not make you smarter hurricanes

3433
02:30:24,569 --> 02:30:22,810
earthquakes wildfires this year we've

3434
02:30:27,359 --> 02:30:24,579
experienced more than our fair share

3435
02:30:29,849 --> 02:30:27,369
this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and

3436
02:30:32,069 --> 02:30:29,859
last month I decided to make sure my

3437
02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:32,079
family does not have to worry about food

3438
02:30:37,950 --> 02:30:34,210
should we get caught in a real emergency

3439
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:37,960
situation introducing Humana a healthy

3440
02:30:41,639 --> 02:30:39,850
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3441
02:30:43,469 --> 02:30:41,649
that you'll want to eat it every day

3442
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:43,479
instead of just during those times of

3443
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:46,210
duress all new manna products have a 25

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[Music]

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02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:23,349
what a great show tonight chance Gardner

3512
02:34:28,060 --> 02:34:25,850
magical Egypt the symposium is going on

3513
02:34:30,580 --> 02:34:28,070
right now it started yesterday almost

3514
02:34:34,960 --> 02:34:30,590
two straight weeks of the absolutely

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02:34:36,849 --> 02:34:34,970
best of the best and now

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02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:36,859
chance right before the break what were

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02:34:42,639 --> 02:34:40,010
we talking about there was really

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02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:42,649
important terms there terms from

3519
02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:45,530
Freemasonry their operative and

3520
02:34:50,349 --> 02:34:48,350
speculative right speculative means that

3521
02:34:51,880 --> 02:34:50,359
you study something from afar you read

3522
02:34:53,740 --> 02:34:51,890
statistics about it you talk to other

3523
02:34:56,679 --> 02:34:53,750
people about it you study it you watch

3524
02:35:00,010 --> 02:34:56,689
it operative means you dive in and you

3525
02:35:01,960 --> 02:35:00,020
do it so you can learn statistics about

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02:35:03,820 --> 02:35:01,970
baseball or you can play baseball you

3527
02:35:05,740 --> 02:35:03,830
can learn about every famous conductor

3528
02:35:09,099 --> 02:35:05,750
or you can pick up a violin and try and

3529
02:35:11,679 --> 02:35:09,109
play the reason why it's such an

3530
02:35:13,389 --> 02:35:11,689
important masonic term is that this is

3531
02:35:16,030 --> 02:35:13,399
another one of those secrets to really

3532
02:35:17,230 --> 02:35:16,040
approaching ancient egypt that you can

3533
02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:17,240
think about it you can talk about it you

3534
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:18,770
can study it from afar but it's not

3535
02:35:22,870 --> 02:35:20,810
meant for that this is an activity book

3536
02:35:25,210 --> 02:35:22,880
this is something that you do and it

3537
02:35:27,010 --> 02:35:25,220
tells you things you do it directly

3538
02:35:30,460 --> 02:35:27,020
relates to you it's not a bunch of

3539
02:35:32,860 --> 02:35:30,470
pointless historical nonsense this might

3540
02:35:34,810 --> 02:35:32,870
be thought of as an instruction manual

3541
02:35:36,639 --> 02:35:34,820
or sometimes we even toy with the idea

3542
02:35:38,349 --> 02:35:36,649
that this is the long-lost owner's

3543
02:35:40,179 --> 02:35:38,359
manual that doesn't it seem weird that

3544
02:35:41,500 --> 02:35:40,189
you have such a complicated machine and

3545
02:35:44,590 --> 02:35:41,510
nobody's ever given you an owner's

3546
02:35:48,310 --> 02:35:44,600
manual for it and Egypt is that thing

3547
02:35:52,060 --> 02:35:48,320
and it's not just it's not just a bunch

3548
02:35:54,219 --> 02:35:52,070
of random ideas this is operative this

3549
02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:54,229
is this gives you the tools to actually

3550
02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:57,050
change yourself and achieve these states

3551
02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:59,120
of mind that are on display in Egypt it

3552
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:01,040
wasn't just a time bound thing that only

3553
02:36:05,110 --> 02:36:03,170
people in the past could be smart it's

3554
02:36:07,179 --> 02:36:05,120
this thing that you can work towards

3555
02:36:08,940 --> 02:36:07,189
like yoga or like martial arts or like

3556
02:36:12,010 --> 02:36:08,950
bodybuilding only it's this

3557
02:36:14,469 --> 02:36:12,020
psycho-spiritual series of activities

3558
02:36:16,270 --> 02:36:14,479
let's we've only got a little bit of

3559
02:36:17,650 --> 02:36:16,280
time left and we've got so many other

3560
02:36:20,950 --> 02:36:17,660
presenters that I want to touch upon

3561
02:36:22,870 --> 02:36:20,960
that are amazing like Becca and oh good

3562
02:36:25,540 --> 02:36:22,880
idea Becca tarnis yeah he's Beckett

3563
02:36:28,030 --> 02:36:25,550
Arnaz and now is she gonna be discussing

3564
02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:28,040
religion what is she gonna do well she's

3565
02:36:32,881 --> 02:36:29,570
there's a very interesting thing that

3566
02:36:36,780 --> 02:36:35,070
in Episode three we talk about this

3567
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:36,790
state called the hypnagogic state Oh

3568
02:36:42,350 --> 02:36:38,650
another extremely hip person in the show

3569
02:36:45,540 --> 02:36:42,360
Gary Lachman who was from blondie

3570
02:36:48,030 --> 02:36:45,550
amazing artist amazing author nowadays

3571
02:36:49,410 --> 02:36:48,040
and it's just fascinating person but he

3572
02:36:52,020 --> 02:36:49,420
started this conversation about the

3573
02:36:54,060 --> 02:36:52,030
hypnagogic state a hypnagogic state is

3574
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:54,070
another one of those things and it ties

3575
02:36:56,430 --> 02:36:55,300
right into operative

3576
02:37:00,660 --> 02:36:56,440
we've been on a roll with the

3577
02:37:02,910 --> 02:37:00,670
transitions today there is this room

3578
02:37:05,011 --> 02:37:02,920
that you can't physically walk into but

3579
02:37:06,540 --> 02:37:05,021
you're always in it this room is up in

3580
02:37:08,131 --> 02:37:06,550
your head and you think that

3581
02:37:09,751 --> 02:37:08,141
consciousness is just this one room you

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02:37:11,131 --> 02:37:09,761
live in but then you notice there's this

3583
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:11,141
little door and if you walk through that

3584
02:37:15,001 --> 02:37:13,210
door there's all these other floors and

3585
02:37:17,131 --> 02:37:15,011
wings and halls of consciousness that

3586
02:37:20,040 --> 02:37:17,141
most people don't really understand so

3587
02:37:24,270 --> 02:37:20,050
way back there was a scientist slash

3588
02:37:26,490 --> 02:37:24,280
theologian named Swedenborg who started

3589
02:37:28,110 --> 02:37:26,500
noticing that in the in the transition

3590
02:37:29,881 --> 02:37:28,120
between waking and sleeping there was

3591
02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:29,891
this special state of consciousness that

3592
02:37:34,980 --> 02:37:33,040
was called the hypnagogic state so

3593
02:37:37,501 --> 02:37:34,990
Swedenborg and then later Carl Jung

3594
02:37:40,140 --> 02:37:37,511
there was this guy Wilson Van Dusen and

3595
02:37:42,511 --> 02:37:40,150
a lot of Indian people yeah yong yong

3596
02:37:45,060 --> 02:37:42,521
famously said you know my life changed

3597
02:37:46,980 --> 02:37:45,070
when I found the door yeah well isn't

3598
02:37:48,211 --> 02:37:46,990
that true I didn't realize that but one

3599
02:37:49,950 --> 02:37:48,221
of the first thing I say in every

3600
02:37:51,450 --> 02:37:49,960
episode of magical Egypt is there's a

3601
02:37:53,551 --> 02:37:51,460
door in your head that nobody told you

3602
02:37:54,930 --> 02:37:53,561
about and that's just that symbolism of

3603
02:37:56,490 --> 02:37:54,940
the door and that is exactly it you've

3604
02:37:58,320 --> 02:37:56,500
there's this door you walk through and

3605
02:38:00,360 --> 02:37:58,330
it shows you first of all that your

3606
02:38:03,091 --> 02:38:00,370
consciousness is not completely your own

3607
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:03,101
you start in this room that is entirely

3608
02:38:06,961 --> 02:38:04,570
your consciousness but if you start

3609
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,971
looking through all the batcaves and you

3610
02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:08,080
know start looking in the cupboards

3611
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:09,790
you'll find secret passageways that lead

3612
02:38:15,211 --> 02:38:12,160
to these places where it seems to be

3613
02:38:17,490 --> 02:38:15,221
common ground where we all meet in this

3614
02:38:20,551 --> 02:38:17,500
psychic sense and it feels like a dream

3615
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:20,561
world only very much like the DMT

3616
02:38:24,270 --> 02:38:22,450
experience it seems to have an objective

3617
02:38:25,530 --> 02:38:24,280
reality it's just this place you go

3618
02:38:28,051 --> 02:38:25,540
where you have to leave your body behind

3619
02:38:30,270 --> 02:38:28,061
so this ties into the afterlife

3620
02:38:32,011 --> 02:38:30,280
experience it ties very much into the

3621
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:32,021
spirituality of the ancient Egyptians

3622
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:34,090
and when they would leave their body and

3623
02:38:37,890 --> 02:38:36,610
communicate with the gods and you know

3624
02:38:39,631 --> 02:38:37,900
we've all had these experiences where

3625
02:38:41,820 --> 02:38:39,641
you sleep in a little too late or as

3626
02:38:43,950 --> 02:38:41,830
you're falling to sleep things happen in

3627
02:38:44,850 --> 02:38:43,960
your brain like I often notice I can see

3628
02:38:46,860 --> 02:38:44,860
my room

3629
02:38:48,961 --> 02:38:46,870
360 degrees I don't just see where my

3630
02:38:51,751 --> 02:38:48,971
eyes go but in the hypnagogic state you

3631
02:38:54,570 --> 02:38:51,761
have this kind of 360-degree view a lot

3632
02:38:56,700 --> 02:38:54,580
of artists use it as you tend young and

3633
02:38:58,620 --> 02:38:56,710
part of the killer of modern psychology

3634
02:39:00,331 --> 02:38:58,630
was that young had this experience and

3635
02:39:03,450 --> 02:39:00,341
so the thing they all say that makes it

3636
02:39:05,730 --> 02:39:03,460
so weird is there are people that are

3637
02:39:08,310 --> 02:39:05,740
not you that live in this space and so

3638
02:39:09,841 --> 02:39:08,320
you can go and you can talk to them or

3639
02:39:11,251 --> 02:39:09,851
interact with them in some way and it

3640
02:39:15,180 --> 02:39:11,261
seems like they're not really there but

3641
02:39:17,131 --> 02:39:15,190
several of these modern psychiatrists

3642
02:39:19,501 --> 02:39:17,141
studying this Wilson Van Dusen in

3643
02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:19,511
particular when people would come in and

3644
02:39:22,291 --> 02:39:20,740
they seem to be schizophrenic and

3645
02:39:23,671 --> 02:39:22,301
they're hearing voices he was the first

3646
02:39:26,791 --> 02:39:23,681
one to go well tell me what the voices

3647
02:39:28,081 --> 02:39:26,801
are saying and what he realized was that

3648
02:39:29,761 --> 02:39:28,091
this person came in that had

3649
02:39:31,530 --> 02:39:29,771
schizophrenia they had maybe a fourth or

3650
02:39:34,400 --> 02:39:31,540
fifth grade education and they were

3651
02:39:36,631 --> 02:39:34,410
talking about this incredibly erudite

3652
02:39:37,650 --> 02:39:36,641
aspect of physics or engineering or

3653
02:39:39,930 --> 02:39:37,660
something with this person had no way of

3654
02:39:41,820 --> 02:39:39,940
knowing but the first psychologist that

3655
02:39:44,131 --> 02:39:41,830
actually took seriously that maybe this

3656
02:39:45,450 --> 02:39:44,141
person is connected to something that is

3657
02:39:47,430 --> 02:39:45,460
talking to them maybe these are real

3658
02:39:49,171 --> 02:39:47,440
voices and he starts talking to the

3659
02:39:51,720 --> 02:39:49,181
voices as if they're real people and

3660
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:51,730
some of them would demonstrate their

3661
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:53,530
authenticity by saying ok well in three

3662
02:39:56,881 --> 02:39:54,880
days there's gonna be an earthquake talk

3663
02:39:59,100 --> 02:39:56,891
to me then or that they know these

3664
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:59,110
principles of science or details about

3665
02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:00,880
history that the patient had no way of

3666
02:40:04,770 --> 02:40:03,250
knowing and so this weird thing that

3667
02:40:07,081 --> 02:40:04,780
almost nobody wanted to talk about it

3668
02:40:08,671 --> 02:40:07,091
that the hypnagogic state like the DMT

3669
02:40:10,890 --> 02:40:08,681
state and perhaps like the afterlife

3670
02:40:12,660 --> 02:40:10,900
state involves your consciousness

3671
02:40:14,881 --> 02:40:12,670
leaving your body and going to someplace

3672
02:40:16,501 --> 02:40:14,891
maybe not physical or just you know

3673
02:40:18,091 --> 02:40:16,511
maybe like the TV model it's just a

3674
02:40:21,570 --> 02:40:18,101
couple of channels away from where we

3675
02:40:25,501 --> 02:40:21,580
live right now but so back at our nest

3676
02:40:27,870 --> 02:40:25,511
is talking about the hypnagogic state

3677
02:40:29,461 --> 02:40:27,880
and the imaginal realm and she found

3678
02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:29,471
this amazing thing speaking of the

3679
02:40:33,961 --> 02:40:30,700
possibility of this being an objective

3680
02:40:38,730 --> 02:40:33,971
thing when she was young her father was

3681
02:40:40,740 --> 02:40:38,740
a very famous psychiatrist and she got

3682
02:40:43,291 --> 02:40:40,750
her PhD in philosophy and religion at

3683
02:40:45,780 --> 02:40:43,301
California Institute of integral studies

3684
02:40:47,700 --> 02:40:45,790
so she's very educated and very astute

3685
02:40:49,501 --> 02:40:47,710
herself but when she was young she was

3686
02:40:52,051 --> 02:40:49,511
reading something by jr. Tolkien you

3687
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:52,061
know the Hobbit guy told him and at the

3688
02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:53,170
same time she'd just bought this

3689
02:40:56,700 --> 02:40:55,120
beautiful copy of the red book for young

3690
02:40:57,870 --> 02:40:56,710
for her father and the reason she bought

3691
02:40:58,170 --> 02:40:57,880
it for him is because she wanted to read

3692
02:41:02,000 --> 02:40:58,180
it

3693
02:41:04,050 --> 02:41:02,010
she said I don't wanna I don't want to

3694
02:41:06,269 --> 02:41:04,060
complicate things with incorrect details

3695
02:41:10,110 --> 02:41:06,279
but anyway she did a comparison of

3696
02:41:11,400 --> 02:41:10,120
tokens writing with young and what she'd

3697
02:41:14,670 --> 02:41:11,410
realized is they're both talking about

3698
02:41:16,620 --> 02:41:14,680
the same place the same citizens the

3699
02:41:19,889 --> 02:41:16,630
same kind of dynamics even the same

3700
02:41:21,450 --> 02:41:19,899
topography and she started comparing and

3701
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:21,460
it became scary

3702
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:24,850
how many similarities young when he was

3703
02:41:30,179 --> 02:41:27,850
exploring his hypnagogic state Tolkien

3704
02:41:31,769 --> 02:41:30,189
who was smart enough to not present it

3705
02:41:34,200 --> 02:41:31,779
as fact but just said there's this

3706
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:34,210
mythical realm that is like this but it

3707
02:41:37,889 --> 02:41:35,770
turns out this realm is incredibly

3708
02:41:40,679 --> 02:41:37,899
accurate description of this place that

3709
02:41:42,450 --> 02:41:40,689
might actually exist so if we break out

3710
02:41:44,460 --> 02:41:42,460
of that you know modern Western

3711
02:41:46,050 --> 02:41:44,470
conditioning to the idea that your

3712
02:41:48,450 --> 02:41:46,060
consciousness in your body aren't

3713
02:41:51,540 --> 02:41:48,460
necessarily always you know locked

3714
02:41:54,540 --> 02:41:51,550
together then you start to understand a

3715
02:41:55,769 --> 02:41:54,550
lot more about the Egyptian practices

3716
02:41:58,170 --> 02:41:55,779
and the things that we think about now

3717
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:58,180
is astral travel and some of that stuff

3718
02:42:01,080 --> 02:41:59,920
that you know makes eyes roll but it

3719
02:42:04,170 --> 02:42:01,090
seems to be a legitimate part of

3720
02:42:05,580 --> 02:42:04,180
consciousness and if you go operative if

3721
02:42:08,010 --> 02:42:05,590
you stop thinking about it and you start

3722
02:42:10,019 --> 02:42:08,020
actually exploring your consciousness

3723
02:42:12,990 --> 02:42:10,029
you'll find that it leads to some places

3724
02:42:14,670 --> 02:42:13,000
that might explain the idea of the

3725
02:42:16,200 --> 02:42:14,680
collective conscience how the zeitgeist

3726
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:16,210
held there's certain things that we just

3727
02:42:20,130 --> 02:42:18,130
all know all of a sudden and it's

3728
02:42:22,290 --> 02:42:20,140
because part of our consciousness is our

3729
02:42:25,050 --> 02:42:22,300
own but in a way that's hard to put into

3730
02:42:26,760 --> 02:42:25,060
words we have this kind of connection or

3731
02:42:31,019 --> 02:42:26,770
this common pool of consciousness as

3732
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:31,029
well that we all draw from and so Beca

3733
02:42:36,090 --> 02:42:34,210
is talking about that and it's just the

3734
02:42:41,010 --> 02:42:36,100
most interesting and sort of just so

3735
02:42:44,340 --> 02:42:41,020
ripe with magical overtones there's a

3736
02:42:47,370 --> 02:42:44,350
reason why it's called middle-earth ya

3737
02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:47,380
know seriously and we got to talk about

3738
02:42:52,099 --> 02:42:49,770
Richard corsaro

3739
02:42:54,420 --> 02:42:52,109
we're sitting here talking about doors

3740
02:43:00,840 --> 02:42:54,430
and we don't bring up Richard Knight

3741
02:43:05,130 --> 02:43:00,850
right now his his research again

3742
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:05,140
everybody that is speaking at the

3743
02:43:09,870 --> 02:43:08,080
symposium for you are all game changers

3744
02:43:13,559 --> 02:43:09,880
but Richard corsaro

3745
02:43:17,179 --> 02:43:13,569
is one of those cats man that his

3746
02:43:19,950 --> 02:43:17,189
research is absolutely game-changing

3747
02:43:22,650 --> 02:43:19,960
before we talk about Richard what we're

3748
02:43:25,349 --> 02:43:22,660
talking about is that I bring it up all

3749
02:43:27,929 --> 02:43:25,359
the time about the cultures around this

3750
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:27,939
planet where everything is transoceanic

3751
02:43:33,780 --> 02:43:30,160
somehow the communication is there

3752
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:33,790
something is universal whether it's one

3753
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:36,399
teacher teaching everybody I don't know

3754
02:43:44,610 --> 02:43:40,960
but Richard's research into this is if

3755
02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:44,620
if you if you want proof what more can

3756
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:46,600
you ask for then what Richard brings

3757
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:51,250
forward pan cultural and it's well it's

3758
02:43:54,479 --> 02:43:52,720
funny to me because it's just like

3759
02:43:56,059 --> 02:43:54,489
magnets clicking together I meet these

3760
02:43:58,830 --> 02:43:56,069
people and I just in the weirdest most

3761
02:43:59,880 --> 02:43:58,840
removed way and we just click and the

3762
02:44:03,929 --> 02:43:59,890
Richards another one those people he's

3763
02:44:06,349 --> 02:44:03,939
just such a nice kind man anyway and he

3764
02:44:08,910 --> 02:44:06,359
asked about you know he's not like a

3765
02:44:10,679 --> 02:44:08,920
he's not overbearing he's not intense

3766
02:44:12,689 --> 02:44:10,689
he's not laser-like he's a perfectly

3767
02:44:14,519 --> 02:44:12,699
normal good person you hang out and have

3768
02:44:16,010 --> 02:44:14,529
a beer with him but and his work is

3769
02:44:20,610 --> 02:44:16,020
presented in that same way it's

3770
02:44:22,260 --> 02:44:20,620
conversational and it's it's it's very

3771
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:22,270
important but it's just so easy to

3772
02:44:27,120 --> 02:44:24,970
understand visuals so well yeah and

3773
02:44:28,979 --> 02:44:27,130
exactly because it's visual he doesn't

3774
02:44:31,139 --> 02:44:28,989
it doesn't require faith on your part he

3775
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:31,149
just shows you this thing that is

3776
02:44:33,960 --> 02:44:32,080
related to what we were talking about

3777
02:44:35,729 --> 02:44:33,970
the try and this Holly triad pioneer

3778
02:44:37,769 --> 02:44:35,739
gland thalamus and pituitary that make

3779
02:44:40,170 --> 02:44:37,779
up the third eye is Brahma Vishnu and

3780
02:44:41,969 --> 02:44:40,180
Shiva it's Jesus God and the Holy Spirit

3781
02:44:44,670 --> 02:44:41,979
it's it's a core of every religion you

3782
02:44:47,490 --> 02:44:44,680
find this triad of entities that is the

3783
02:44:49,139 --> 02:44:47,500
external reflection of this triad in us

3784
02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:49,149
that's responsible for consciousness so

3785
02:44:53,010 --> 02:44:51,040
kisara shows all over the world there's

3786
02:44:55,950 --> 02:44:53,020
a certain architectural feature that

3787
02:44:58,530 --> 02:44:55,960
pays homage to that these triplets are

3788
02:44:59,969 --> 02:44:58,540
triptychs he calls them tremendous to

3789
02:45:02,219 --> 02:44:59,979
start of it but he keeps there's just so

3790
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:02,229
much that he does that it shows as you

3791
02:45:07,139 --> 02:45:05,680
said there seems to have been a previous

3792
02:45:10,590 --> 02:45:07,149
civilization that was a global

3793
02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:10,600
civilization because when you start look

3794
02:45:13,769 --> 02:45:12,460
if you just take modern Western

3795
02:45:16,590 --> 02:45:13,779
Christianity out of the mix and again

3796
02:45:19,710 --> 02:45:16,600
I'm not here to bash anybody but a lot

3797
02:45:21,900 --> 02:45:19,720
of the most ancient cultures all are

3798
02:45:23,189 --> 02:45:21,910
basically saying the same thing and

3799
02:45:23,769 --> 02:45:23,199
they've all been misunderstood sort of

3800
02:45:25,510 --> 02:45:23,779
in the same way

3801
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:25,520
if you go to the actual bedrock of the

3802
02:45:30,789 --> 02:45:26,930
symbolism of all of these different

3803
02:45:33,579 --> 02:45:30,799
spiritual systems you'll find those

3804
02:45:36,189 --> 02:45:33,589
tenants reflected in the architecture

3805
02:45:38,139 --> 02:45:36,199
and so the a lot of the things we're

3806
02:45:40,239 --> 02:45:38,149
talking about weren't unique to Egypt

3807
02:45:43,599 --> 02:45:40,249
they work just traits of the ancient

3808
02:45:46,269 --> 02:45:43,609
world and kisara is one of those people

3809
02:45:47,859 --> 02:45:46,279
that shows you that there's this message

3810
02:45:50,260 --> 02:45:47,869
from the past and every single culture

3811
02:45:51,729 --> 02:45:50,270
it was clearly their most important most

3812
02:45:54,760 --> 02:45:51,739
cherished idea because every single

3813
02:45:56,289 --> 02:45:54,770
culture erected these monuments and this

3814
02:45:58,239 --> 02:45:56,299
is not easy this is not a casual thing

3815
02:45:59,920 --> 02:45:58,249
building these temples to such exact

3816
02:46:02,380 --> 02:45:59,930
measurements and incorporating the

3817
02:46:04,929 --> 02:46:02,390
symbolism into all of them and he just

3818
02:46:08,949 --> 02:46:04,939
shows in his way is unassailable way

3819
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:08,959
that not only was this idea system in

3820
02:46:12,760 --> 02:46:10,640
place but that the intent you know the

3821
02:46:14,079 --> 02:46:12,770
intellect of the past were so snobbish

3822
02:46:15,329 --> 02:46:14,089
nowadays thinking that were so much

3823
02:46:18,729 --> 02:46:15,339
smarter than we were in the past and

3824
02:46:20,229 --> 02:46:18,739
kisara presents this evidence that the

3825
02:46:21,789 --> 02:46:20,239
question isn't why were they so smart

3826
02:46:23,469 --> 02:46:21,799
it's more why are we so stupid and

3827
02:46:24,760 --> 02:46:23,479
there's a promise in that that we can

3828
02:46:26,590 --> 02:46:24,770
get back to the intelligence that we

3829
02:46:28,329 --> 02:46:26,600
used to have and the architecture oddly

3830
02:46:34,479 --> 02:46:28,339
enough tells you how to do that well

3831
02:46:36,969 --> 02:46:34,489
when we if he if he presented the top of

3832
02:46:38,829 --> 02:46:36,979
a Mayan pyramid for instance right with

3833
02:46:43,119 --> 02:46:38,839
with three entrances with three doors

3834
02:46:45,340 --> 02:46:43,129
yes and and had a very convincing story

3835
02:46:47,829 --> 02:46:45,350
and the mythology behind it and the

3836
02:46:51,579 --> 02:46:47,839
religion behind it in the gods and you

3837
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:51,589
know what that's awesome but it's it's

3838
02:46:56,529 --> 02:46:54,319
it's it's in Central America South

3839
02:47:02,319 --> 02:46:56,539
America it's in Egypt it's in Asia it's

3840
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:02,329
in Greece it's every it's the Orkney

3841
02:47:08,859 --> 02:47:03,770
Islands I don't care

3842
02:47:12,159 --> 02:47:08,869
oh yeah right right it's everywhere yes

3843
02:47:14,529 --> 02:47:12,169
there's that it comes to a point when

3844
02:47:17,229 --> 02:47:14,539
you're you're looking at this I don't

3845
02:47:19,210 --> 02:47:17,239
know why it is something that is

3846
02:47:21,550 --> 02:47:19,220
generally not talked about and missed

3847
02:47:24,159 --> 02:47:21,560
but it's right there in our faces and

3848
02:47:27,449 --> 02:47:24,169
you can find it on every continent and

3849
02:47:30,809 --> 02:47:27,459
in every in every country every culture

3850
02:47:32,949 --> 02:47:30,819
yeah in fact it's an interesting art

3851
02:47:35,300 --> 02:47:32,959
project if you really want to understand

3852
02:47:37,010 --> 02:47:35,310
art and develop your eye

3853
02:47:38,689 --> 02:47:37,020
you know an art direction is like the

3854
02:47:40,370 --> 02:47:38,699
visual motif or something like when you

3855
02:47:41,960 --> 02:47:40,380
look at Mexican temples there's this

3856
02:47:43,610 --> 02:47:41,970
motif or this art direction that's

3857
02:47:45,200 --> 02:47:43,620
different than Asian and the Asian is

3858
02:47:48,200 --> 02:47:45,210
different than Egyptian and Egyptian is

3859
02:47:51,229 --> 02:47:48,210
different than Babylonian so the art the

3860
02:47:53,050 --> 02:47:51,239
the presentation the aesthetics change

3861
02:47:55,250 --> 02:47:53,060
from culture to culture but the

3862
02:47:57,769 --> 02:47:55,260
structure and the symbolism stay the

3863
02:48:00,740 --> 02:47:57,779
same it's it's direct its direct and the

3864
02:48:03,260 --> 02:48:00,750
changes are actually subtle yeah right

3865
02:48:07,070 --> 02:48:03,270
but the you're absolutely right the

3866
02:48:11,479 --> 02:48:07,080
foundation is very direct very direct I

3867
02:48:13,070 --> 02:48:11,489
wanted to I wanted to talk about Arthur

3868
02:48:15,050 --> 02:48:13,080
really quick too as well I'm looking at

3869
02:48:17,479 --> 02:48:15,060
the cars sure I know man we're out of

3870
02:48:19,460 --> 02:48:17,489
time okay you know what let's just get

3871
02:48:22,370 --> 02:48:19,470
straight to Arthur I wanted to I wanted

3872
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:22,380
to backpedal a little bit but let's go

3873
02:48:27,620 --> 02:48:24,479
to Hartford and we're you know this is

3874
02:48:31,309 --> 02:48:27,630
there you touched upon this that the

3875
02:48:32,300 --> 02:48:31,319
list here is the foundation is also

3876
02:48:38,090 --> 02:48:32,310
intellectuals

3877
02:48:41,300 --> 02:48:38,100
were you able to get this list together

3878
02:48:43,820 --> 02:48:41,310
and are you researching everything I

3879
02:48:46,219 --> 02:48:43,830
mean are you reading their books and

3880
02:48:48,320 --> 02:48:46,229
stuff yeah I mean that is a lot of work

3881
02:48:50,510 --> 02:48:48,330
I couldn't even tell you the last time I

3882
02:48:52,400 --> 02:48:50,520
had more than two hours sleep just I'm

3883
02:48:54,290 --> 02:48:52,410
it's great I'm having tights like I'm

3884
02:48:56,030 --> 02:48:54,300
gonna Thanksgiving banquet it's all

3885
02:48:57,439 --> 02:48:56,040
people that are just magnetically

3886
02:49:00,550 --> 02:48:57,449
attracted to and people that are drawn

3887
02:49:04,670 --> 02:49:00,560
to magical Egypt but yeah I've just

3888
02:49:05,300 --> 02:49:04,680
christopher's Dunn's new book arts there

3889
02:49:07,189 --> 02:49:05,310
Edie

3890
02:49:08,599 --> 02:49:07,199
Ed's work you know honestly I learned a

3891
02:49:10,280 --> 02:49:08,609
lot about it from watching your

3892
02:49:13,309 --> 02:49:10,290
interviews with them

3893
02:49:16,610 --> 02:49:13,319
those were just fantastically amazing um

3894
02:49:18,650 --> 02:49:16,620
Aaron you know Aaron is my surrogate

3895
02:49:23,300 --> 02:49:18,660
brain Aaron such an educated person they

3896
02:49:25,610 --> 02:49:23,310
throw such a wide net and but it's a

3897
02:49:27,559 --> 02:49:25,620
very weird thing that there's so many

3898
02:49:29,870 --> 02:49:27,569
branches of the science that are mad at

3899
02:49:31,309 --> 02:49:29,880
Egyptology because no one will listen to

3900
02:49:32,929 --> 02:49:31,319
them and no matter how conclusive their

3901
02:49:34,880 --> 02:49:32,939
evidence they never get an arena to

3902
02:49:36,349 --> 02:49:34,890
present their evidence so one of the

3903
02:49:37,820 --> 02:49:36,359
things I wanted to do it kind of keep

3904
02:49:41,269 --> 02:49:37,830
Jon's work alive and keep the momentum

3905
02:49:42,740 --> 02:49:41,279
going is throw open like how many other

3906
02:49:44,929 --> 02:49:42,750
scientists out there are like me who

3907
02:49:45,599 --> 02:49:44,939
have an expertise in their craft and who

3908
02:49:48,359 --> 02:49:45,609
condemned

3909
02:49:50,219 --> 02:49:48,369
straight something that advances our

3910
02:49:52,559 --> 02:49:50,229
understanding of ancient Egypt so we

3911
02:49:54,809 --> 02:49:52,569
have musical engineers we have chemists

3912
02:49:56,999 --> 02:49:54,819
we have philosophy majors we have lots

3913
02:49:59,219 --> 02:49:57,009
of technical scientists for some reason

3914
02:50:00,209 --> 02:49:59,229
almost every one of them is musician or

3915
02:50:03,449 --> 02:50:00,219
has something to do with the

3916
02:50:05,069 --> 02:50:03,459
overdeveloped right brain but javis Luce

3917
02:50:06,479 --> 02:50:05,079
is one of those people like Aaron where

3918
02:50:07,439 --> 02:50:06,489
he's just highly educated he's an

3919
02:50:11,099 --> 02:50:07,449
intellectual

3920
02:50:16,379 --> 02:50:11,109
but he just he brings that organized

3921
02:50:19,859 --> 02:50:16,389
mind and that intellect to demonstrating

3922
02:50:21,689 --> 02:50:19,869
the intelligence in the the grades or

3923
02:50:23,399 --> 02:50:21,699
the degree of consciousness you know

3924
02:50:25,469 --> 02:50:23,409
Plato had this pyramid of consciousness

3925
02:50:28,249 --> 02:50:25,479
where most people operate in this lowest

3926
02:50:30,569 --> 02:50:28,259
rung of consciousness which is just your

3927
02:50:32,269 --> 02:50:30,579
unconscious making you do things and you

3928
02:50:34,529 --> 02:50:32,279
know maybe five ten percent of your

3929
02:50:37,079 --> 02:50:34,539
decisions are actually unconsciously

3930
02:50:38,069 --> 02:50:37,089
made and so that's the lowest Brent run

3931
02:50:40,019 --> 02:50:38,079
on the pyramid and then above that

3932
02:50:42,209 --> 02:50:40,029
there's what's called geometric thought

3933
02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:42,219
when you use logic and reason to

3934
02:50:45,389 --> 02:50:43,810
actually get someplace in your mind and

3935
02:50:47,639 --> 02:50:45,399
you're not just constantly reacting

3936
02:50:49,499 --> 02:50:47,649
avoiding pain and seeking pleasure and

3937
02:50:50,819 --> 02:50:49,509
so that's pretty important to make that

3938
02:50:52,409 --> 02:50:50,829
leap from the first step to the second

3939
02:50:55,229 --> 02:50:52,419
but then the third step is this thing

3940
02:50:57,119 --> 02:50:55,239
that is what hermeticism is all about

3941
02:50:58,800 --> 02:50:57,129
getting you to this place where you're

3942
02:51:01,199 --> 02:50:58,810
not only able to draw on logic but

3943
02:51:04,639 --> 02:51:01,209
you're able to draw on this weird sense

3944
02:51:07,050 --> 02:51:04,649
of knowing this intuition that is a

3945
02:51:08,849 --> 02:51:07,060
natural property of consciousness but

3946
02:51:11,099 --> 02:51:08,859
it's one that because in the Western

3947
02:51:12,869 --> 02:51:11,109
world nobody's trying to get there but

3948
02:51:14,969 --> 02:51:12,879
you know martial arts movies and old

3949
02:51:16,829 --> 02:51:14,979
stories magic Harry Potter all this

3950
02:51:18,899 --> 02:51:16,839
stuff is still in our psyche because

3951
02:51:20,699 --> 02:51:18,909
this is all stuff we can do this is all

3952
02:51:21,959 --> 02:51:20,709
stuff that you can do you know if you

3953
02:51:22,949 --> 02:51:21,969
were raised in a culture that never let

3954
02:51:24,300 --> 02:51:22,959
you get out of the chair

3955
02:51:25,709 --> 02:51:24,310
you'd be surprised to find out that you

3956
02:51:28,609 --> 02:51:25,719
can get up and walk around and maybe

3957
02:51:32,129 --> 02:51:28,619
even run you know that seems paranormal

3958
02:51:34,769 --> 02:51:32,139
no that's true and Arthur versus Lewis

3959
02:51:37,829 --> 02:51:34,779
you know for the audience that may not

3960
02:51:40,409 --> 02:51:37,839
know who he is he is a professor at the

3961
02:51:42,599 --> 02:51:40,419
department chair of religious studies in

3962
02:51:46,760 --> 02:51:42,609
the College of Arts and Letters at

3963
02:51:56,670 --> 02:51:50,779
very impressive cat and here he is

3964
02:52:00,510 --> 02:51:56,680
speaking at your symposium is this

3965
02:52:07,820 --> 02:52:00,520
other evidence of professional academics

3966
02:52:14,370 --> 02:52:10,950
Robert Schoch for instance where they're

3967
02:52:16,380 --> 02:52:14,380
starting to blend a little bit are we

3968
02:52:19,139 --> 02:52:16,390
starting to overlap yeah

3969
02:52:21,330 --> 02:52:19,149
Robert was an early adopter and it's why

3970
02:52:24,210 --> 02:52:21,340
he's just so a million reasons he's an

3971
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:24,220
awesome guy yeah it's starting the tide

3972
02:52:29,030 --> 02:52:27,010
is turning there was a new when John was

3973
02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:29,040
still alive we talked a bit about this

3974
02:52:34,950 --> 02:52:33,370
in Russia a new dictionary or

3975
02:52:37,380 --> 02:52:34,960
encyclopedia the new you know whatever

3976
02:52:39,889 --> 02:52:37,390
the big encyclopedia is there came out

3977
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:39,899
and for the first time in Orthodox

3978
02:52:44,099 --> 02:52:42,310
educational publication acknowledged

3979
02:52:47,610 --> 02:52:44,109
John West Sphinx theory as a viable

3980
02:52:48,929 --> 02:52:47,620
alternative to Egyptology so very slowly

3981
02:52:51,030 --> 02:52:48,939
and then you know when gobekli tepe

3982
02:52:53,160 --> 02:52:51,040
happened that was just you know that was

3983
02:52:55,380 --> 02:52:53,170
the slam dunk very slowly

3984
02:52:58,769 --> 02:52:55,390
fields who don't have an axe to grind

3985
02:53:00,479 --> 02:52:58,779
are joining the fight so it takes me so

3986
02:53:02,639 --> 02:53:00,489
long to produce the formal episodes of

3987
02:53:04,380 --> 02:53:02,649
Egypt but we've snow balled and snow

3988
02:53:06,210 --> 02:53:04,390
balled we're all these like minds are

3989
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:06,220
coming together and our think tank that

3990
02:53:10,530 --> 02:53:07,810
was originally just three of us and then

3991
02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:10,540
it was five of us and now there's 30 or

3992
02:53:16,979 --> 02:53:13,210
40 people in this collective and we're

3993
02:53:19,710 --> 02:53:16,989
all bringing our core aptitudes and are

3994
02:53:22,769 --> 02:53:19,720
all you know are weird savant isms to

3995
02:53:24,059 --> 02:53:22,779
this subject and so I've got tired of

3996
02:53:25,500 --> 02:53:24,069
being the bottleneck in all of this that

3997
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:25,510
we can only go as fast as I can produce

3998
02:53:30,120 --> 02:53:28,330
these shows and so Venise has created

3999
02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:30,130
this symposium so that the world doesn't

4000
02:53:33,389 --> 02:53:31,840
have to wait for me to get around to

4001
02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:33,399
building all these episodes that we just

4002
02:53:40,349 --> 02:53:37,810
have this festival of troublemakers who

4003
02:53:42,540 --> 02:53:40,359
are really redefining humanity they're

4004
02:53:44,580 --> 02:53:42,550
redefining consciousness and they're not

4005
02:53:46,250 --> 02:53:44,590
a bunch of new-age nutcases you live in

4006
02:53:48,840 --> 02:53:46,260
Los Angeles you know I'm sure you know

4007
02:53:50,610 --> 02:53:48,850
more coups per square inch like you know

4008
02:53:52,320 --> 02:53:50,620
my Los Angeles is second only to San

4009
02:53:55,979 --> 02:53:52,330
Francisco Los Angeles is so full of

4010
02:53:58,769 --> 02:53:55,989
insane people and it kind of ruins the

4011
02:54:01,800 --> 02:53:58,779
genre for careful meticulous scientists

4012
02:54:03,300 --> 02:54:01,810
and so all of the people who really

4013
02:54:05,429 --> 02:54:03,310
understand that there's legitimate

4014
02:54:07,139 --> 02:54:05,439
science to be done here and this giant

4015
02:54:09,531 --> 02:54:07,149
field of snow that no one's walked on

4016
02:54:11,781 --> 02:54:09,541
because there's so many fences

4017
02:54:13,731 --> 02:54:11,791
around it it's a chance for really

4018
02:54:15,441 --> 02:54:13,741
bright forward-thinking people to make a

4019
02:54:18,291 --> 02:54:15,451
name for themselves by demonstrating

4020
02:54:20,001 --> 02:54:18,301
that as I said the rest of the sciences

4021
02:54:21,890 --> 02:54:20,011
should be consulted before the last word

4022
02:54:23,600 --> 02:54:21,900
is said about Egypt and when you look at

4023
02:54:25,161 --> 02:54:23,610
it through the eyes of the sciences it's

4024
02:54:26,451 --> 02:54:25,171
a whole different animal and it's more

4025
02:54:28,191 --> 02:54:26,461
like a science fiction so it's like a

4026
02:54:30,680 --> 02:54:28,201
crashed UFO that we reverse-engineer

4027
02:54:35,001 --> 02:54:30,690
rather than some you know archaic

4028
02:54:36,970 --> 02:54:35,011
historical curiosity we've got to say

4029
02:54:40,270 --> 02:54:36,980
good night but I want to ask you this

4030
02:54:42,981 --> 02:54:40,280
with all of the knowledge that you have

4031
02:54:46,251 --> 02:54:42,991
surrounded yourself with starting with a

4032
02:54:54,680 --> 02:54:46,261
shock and jaws and I like that shock and

4033
02:55:01,220 --> 02:54:54,690
Giles today chance what what is the one

4034
02:55:02,871 --> 02:55:01,230
thing that that you have learned I would

4035
02:55:07,281 --> 02:55:02,881
say the thing that I learned the big top

4036
02:55:09,651 --> 02:55:07,291
line is this is a story it's not a

4037
02:55:11,781 --> 02:55:09,661
religion it's a science it's a science

4038
02:55:13,881 --> 02:55:11,791
that was directed at me it was a science

4039
02:55:15,801 --> 02:55:13,891
it was directed at you this is not for

4040
02:55:17,871 --> 02:55:15,811
academics this is for everyone with a

4041
02:55:20,121 --> 02:55:17,881
brain that wants to understand it this

4042
02:55:21,441 --> 02:55:20,131
is for everyone who recognizes something

4043
02:55:23,661 --> 02:55:21,451
they can't put into words

4044
02:55:25,071 --> 02:55:23,671
in ancient Egypt one of the reasons I'm

4045
02:55:27,201 --> 02:55:25,081
excited about getting you on the show is

4046
02:55:30,621 --> 02:55:27,211
that you are a unique individual that

4047
02:55:32,930 --> 02:55:30,631
you're a clearinghouse for the greatest

4048
02:55:34,761 --> 02:55:32,940
minds on earth and all of those most

4049
02:55:37,430 --> 02:55:34,771
amazing ideas have all channeled through

4050
02:55:38,600 --> 02:55:37,440
your brain and so I'm really excited

4051
02:55:40,341 --> 02:55:38,610
about getting in there and walking

4052
02:55:43,131 --> 02:55:40,351
around out to the flash well and we're

4053
02:55:46,611 --> 02:55:43,141
gonna do that and I'll leave you with

4054
02:55:48,651 --> 02:55:46,621
this what I have learned with everything

4055
02:55:52,871 --> 02:55:48,661
that I have compiled and I'm if you're

4056
02:55:56,711 --> 02:55:52,881
absolutely right it is off I'm like a

4057
02:55:59,511 --> 02:55:56,721
calendar like a draining spaghetti right

4058
02:56:03,201 --> 02:55:59,521
you know I'm a filter right I'm a filter

4059
02:56:06,140 --> 02:56:03,211
is that we don't know nothing yeah we're

4060
02:56:08,661 --> 02:56:06,150
just getting we don't you know Hancock

4061
02:56:11,201 --> 02:56:08,671
when he says we have amnesia he's not

4062
02:56:15,350 --> 02:56:11,211
kidding about that you know we know

4063
02:56:19,430 --> 02:56:15,360
absolutely nothing and they they have

4064
02:56:21,560 --> 02:56:19,440
made sure that we don't learn and that's

4065
02:56:22,400 --> 02:56:21,570
that's really the truth and when I say

4066
02:56:24,310 --> 02:56:22,410
they I'm talking

4067
02:56:26,770 --> 02:56:24,320
think about collectively color

4068
02:56:29,990 --> 02:56:26,780
corporations and governments and in

4069
02:56:32,030 --> 02:56:30,000
religions and schools or they have

4070
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:32,040
choked us down and choked us down and

4071
02:56:39,650 --> 02:56:37,110
choked us down I had I had a teacher in

4072
02:56:42,620 --> 02:56:39,660
eighth grade I don't remember his name

4073
02:56:47,480 --> 02:56:42,630
but he taught this class Indiana history

4074
02:56:50,150 --> 02:56:47,490
and in this class and that this is how

4075
02:56:54,591 --> 02:56:50,160
outside of the box this guy was and he

4076
02:56:56,690 --> 02:56:54,601
was probably 60 65 compared to education

4077
02:56:59,841 --> 02:56:56,700
today in eighth grade right

4078
02:57:02,690 --> 02:56:59,851
he actually uttered these words and I

4079
02:57:06,680 --> 02:57:02,700
never forgot it changed my life

4080
02:57:09,910 --> 02:57:06,690
he goes and Graham Hancock talks about

4081
02:57:14,750 --> 02:57:09,920
it today but this was an eighth grade in

4082
02:57:18,320 --> 02:57:14,760
Indiana he said three miles of ice came

4083
02:57:20,750 --> 02:57:18,330
across Canada in the United States and

4084
02:57:25,430 --> 02:57:20,760
flattened everything out I need you to

4085
02:57:29,660 --> 02:57:25,440
imagine three miles of ice above your

4086
02:57:33,551 --> 02:57:29,670
head right now and now okay so then he

4087
02:57:36,950 --> 02:57:33,561
says and then I stopped and left these

4088
02:57:40,341 --> 02:57:36,960
mounds that are across southern Indiana

4089
02:57:42,940 --> 02:57:40,351
that were built by a culture and a

4090
02:57:45,500 --> 02:57:42,950
civilization that we know nothing about

4091
02:57:48,920 --> 02:57:45,510
and I stopped and I just thought about

4092
02:57:50,720 --> 02:57:48,930
the significance of what right they

4093
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:50,730
don't teach that today in school yeah

4094
02:57:57,020 --> 02:57:54,000
how radical was that teacher and today

4095
02:58:00,381 --> 02:57:57,030
it's graham hancock and you and shock

4096
02:58:04,490 --> 02:58:00,391
and others that are bringing this back

4097
02:58:06,381 --> 02:58:04,500
to us because we have amnesia and we

4098
02:58:09,620 --> 02:58:06,391
want to know if there is anything to

4099
02:58:11,960 --> 02:58:09,630
that idea of anamnesis we already know

4100
02:58:13,160 --> 02:58:11,970
you know when you get your brain split

4101
02:58:15,350 --> 02:58:13,170
or when they were doing that split brain

4102
02:58:16,551 --> 02:58:15,360
experience experiments in the 70s your

4103
02:58:18,530 --> 02:58:16,561
right brain would know something and

4104
02:58:19,790 --> 02:58:18,540
your left brain would know that you know

4105
02:58:21,440 --> 02:58:19,800
it but it didn't know how you knew it

4106
02:58:23,330 --> 02:58:21,450
and it's this weird like a second

4107
02:58:25,370 --> 02:58:23,340
intuition is people know there's

4108
02:58:26,750 --> 02:58:25,380
something there we want we know it and

4109
02:58:29,420 --> 02:58:26,760
we're just waiting for somebody to say

4110
02:58:32,511 --> 02:58:29,430
it yeah it's so funny now when when

4111
02:58:34,070 --> 02:58:32,521
anything just smells a little funny when

4112
02:58:36,500 --> 02:58:34,080
you hear something

4113
02:58:38,090 --> 02:58:36,510
when you toss something people just jump

4114
02:58:41,630 --> 02:58:38,100
on the keyboard now they can go and

4115
02:58:42,920 --> 02:58:41,640
research they can call you on what you

4116
02:58:45,500 --> 02:58:42,930
are saying and I'm talking about

4117
02:58:48,020 --> 02:58:45,510
governments and and universities and

4118
02:58:51,950 --> 02:58:48,030
school systems you know if you if you're

4119
02:58:54,170 --> 02:58:51,960
gonna feed a line of BS I want to use

4120
02:58:56,120 --> 02:58:54,180
other words but if you're going to feed

4121
02:58:58,640 --> 02:58:56,130
that line you better be able to back it

4122
02:59:01,520 --> 02:58:58,650
up because today we have the ability to

4123
02:59:03,470 --> 02:59:01,530
call you on it and that's that's why I

4124
02:59:05,450 --> 02:59:03,480
love where we are today and the fact

4125
02:59:08,120 --> 02:59:05,460
that you're doing the symposium thank

4126
02:59:10,340 --> 02:59:08,130
you so much chance all right that's a

4127
02:59:12,710 --> 02:59:10,350
give my best of a nice and I will see

4128
02:59:15,380 --> 02:59:12,720
you bright and early you keep saying

4129
02:59:18,170 --> 02:59:15,390
saying tomorrow evening it's not for us

4130
02:59:19,880 --> 02:59:18,180
here it is oh that's right right right

4131
02:59:21,920 --> 02:59:19,890
don't listen to my time my local time

4132
02:59:23,720 --> 02:59:21,930
it's all sadistically late for know but

4133
02:59:25,640 --> 02:59:23,730
what's a good friendly time for the

4134
02:59:28,850 --> 02:59:25,650
states and for Europe we're starting at

4135
02:59:32,470 --> 02:59:28,860
noon tomorrow right that's my time okay

4136
02:59:34,880 --> 02:59:32,480
I'm just making sure see you tomorrow

4137
02:59:36,980 --> 02:59:34,890
give my best to Venise and I'll see you

4138
02:59:40,761 --> 02:59:36,990
first thing in the morning there's a

4139
02:59:42,410 --> 02:59:40,771
chance Gardner magical Egypt I've got to

4140
02:59:46,460 --> 02:59:42,420
get out of here I'm looking at the clock

4141
02:59:48,920 --> 02:59:46,470
and man I ran to the very end and I'll

4142
02:59:50,330 --> 02:59:48,930
see everybody tomorrow it is magical

4143
02:59:52,700 --> 02:59:50,340
Egypt calm

4144
02:59:54,680 --> 02:59:52,710
go and get your symposium tickets chance

4145
02:59:55,640 --> 02:59:54,690
and I are gonna kick it off tomorrow for

4146
02:59:56,930 --> 02:59:55,650
three hours

4147
02:59:59,331 --> 02:59:56,940
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03:00:35,360 --> 03:00:31,891
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4164
03:00:40,690 --> 03:00:35,370
night Jason rice is here until then